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Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Wow, I can't win no matter what. lolI think I should fold preflop. I need to work on these three way spots because sometimes it occurs in different order and you miss the fact that you were supposed to fold preflop.
I'm guessing that 98s is a normal open for you from UTG — it is even with my pre-GTO charts,
The small open-raise size is there to invite 3Bets and play post-flop. It worked. Now what?
Those same charts have it as a fold to a 3Bet from any position. You need to hit a flop hard to continue.
"Hard" in this context is at least an OESD, but two pair would be better, OESFD best
What does the UTG raise/fold range look like according to GTO Wizard?
I had a look there yesterday, but didn't do much with it. Too much time to learn yet another poker tool.
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Wow, I can't win no matter what. lolI think I should fold preflop. I need to work on these three way spots because sometimes it occurs in different order and you miss the fact that you were supposed to fold preflop.
I'm guessing that 98s is a normal open for you from UTG — it is even with my pre-GTO charts,
The small open-raise size is there to invite 3Bets and play post-flop. It worked. Now what?
Those same charts have it as a fold to a 3Bet from any position. You need to hit a flop hard to continue.
"Hard" in this context is at least an OESD, but two pair would be better, OESFD bestWhat does the UTG raise/fold range look like according to GTO Wizard?
I had a look there yesterday, but didn't do much with it. Too much time to learn yet another poker tool.
There was a guy in the forum talking about this stuff before. The three way 3bet pots. You just have to learn to fold a lot of these speculative ranges because it has RIO.
GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 73.4 BB
SB: 116.56 BB
Hero (BB): 114.84 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 293.52 BB
CO: 171.76 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♣ A♦
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2.52 BB, SB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 19.68 BB, fold, SB calls 10.68 BB
Flop: (41.88 BB, 2 players) 4♦ 7♦ A♠
SB checks, Hero checks
Turn: (41.88 BB, 2 players) 6♠
SB bets 20.96 BB, Hero calls 20.96 BB
River: (83.8 BB, 2 players) 7♥
SB bets 75.92 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 74.2 BB and is all-in
SB shows 6♥ 6♦ (Full House, Sixes full of Sevens)
(Pre 20%, Flop 3%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows A♣ A♦ (Full House, Aces full of Sevens)
(Pre 80%, Flop 97%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins 227.72 BB
I doubt I'll ever stack this reg again because he is pretty smart, and the hand is just a "lol" cooler.
GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 69.64 BB
SB: 71.52 BB
BB: 205.6 BB
UTG: 123.52 BB
MP: 112.16 BB
Hero (CO): 113.64 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 9♣ T♣
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB
Flop: (4.4 BB, 2 players) 5♦ J♣ 8♣
BB checks, Hero bets 1.56 BB, BB raises to 7.2 BB, Hero raises to 111.64 BB and is all-in, BB calls 104.44 BB
Turn: (227.68 BB, 2 players) K♥
River: (227.68 BB, 2 players) 9♥
Players agreed to run it twice.
Turn #2: (227.68 BB, 2 players) 9♦
River #2: (227.68 BB, 2 players) 6♦
Hero shows 9♣ T♣ (One Pair, Nines)
Board #1 (Pre 66%, Flop 76%, Turn 80%)
(One Pair, Nines)
Board #2 (Pre 64%, Flop 78%, Turn 31%)
BB shows 7♣ 6♣ (Straight, Nine High)
Board #1 (Pre 34%, Flop 24%, Turn 20%)
(Straight, Nine High)
Board #2 (Pre 36%, Flop 22%, Turn 69%)
BB wins 111.64 BB
BB wins 111.6 BB
Ouch!!
GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 156.56 BB
SB: 58.24 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 102.84 BB
MP: 106.6 BB
Hero (CO): 100 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 8♥ J♥
fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero calls 8 BB
Flop: (20.4 BB, 2 players) 9♥ 7♥ 6♣
BB checks, Hero bets 7.16 BB, BB raises to 90 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 82.84 BB and is all-in
Turn: (200.4 BB, 2 players) 2♥
River: (200.4 BB, 2 players) 3♥
Players agreed to run it twice.
Turn #2: (200.4 BB, 2 players) Q♥
River #2: (200.4 BB, 2 players) 4♠
BB shows T♦ T♥ (Flush, Ten High)
Board #1 Main Pot [200.4 BB]: (Pre 68%, Flop 45%, Turn 0%) (One Pair, Tens)
Board #2 Main Pot [200.4 BB]: (Pre 68%, Flop 49%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows 8♥ J♥ (Flush, Jack High)
Board #1 Main Pot [200.4 BB]: (Pre 32%, Flop 55%, Turn 100%) (Flush, Queen High)
Board #2 Main Pot [200.4 BB]: (Pre 32%, Flop 51%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 98 BB
Hero wins 97.96 BB
It happens to us all. lol
Originally posted by Dr1fter808
I doubt I'll ever stack this reg again because he is pretty smart, and the hand is just a "lol" cooler.
On the other hand — he's now primed
Just so you know, I would've run it twice for you. Sir.
GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 100 BB
SB: 100.52 BB
BB: 99.6 BB
UTG: 101 BB
MP: 318.64 BB
Hero (CO): 105.28 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♥ Q♦
fold, MP raises to 2.2 BB, Hero calls 2.2 BB, BTN raises to 11.88 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 105.28 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 88.12 BB and is all-in
Flop: (203.6 BB, 2 players) 8♦ 3♠ 2♣
Turn: (203.6 BB, 2 players) Q♠
River: (203.6 BB, 2 players) 5♦
Hero shows Q♥ Q♦ (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 57%, Flop 74%, Turn 100%)
BTN shows K♥ A♣ (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 43%, Flop 26%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 199.12 BB
Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Nasty cooler.
Doesn't look all that nasty from your side of the table!
Nice hand
Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Nasty cooler.Doesn't look all that nasty from your side of the table!
Nice hand
Thank you. Yeah, I hesitated to squeeze because BTN is an uber nit. lol
I'm going to share an Ace with my villain.
GG Poker - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 138 BB
SB: 73 BB
Hero (BB): 122.5 BB
UTG: 430 BB
MP: 98.5 BB
CO: 44.5 BB
SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♠ K♣
fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, BTN raises to 23 BB, Hero calls 12 BB
Flop: (46.5 BB, 2 players) 7♥ 2♣ A♦
Hero bets 24.5 BB, BTN calls 24.5 BB
Turn: (95.5 BB, 2 players) 9♦
Hero bets 75 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 75 BB
River: (245.5 BB, 2 players) T♠
Players agreed to run it twice.
River #2: (245.5 BB, 2 players) 8♥
Hero shows A♠ K♣ (One Pair, Aces)
Board #1 (Pre 74%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
(One Pair, Aces)
Board #2 (Pre 74%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
BTN shows A♣ Q♥ (One Pair, Aces)
Board #1 (Pre 26%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
(One Pair, Aces)
Board #2 (Pre 26%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins 120.5 BB
Hero wins 120.5 BB
Got him.
Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Nasty cooler.
I bet you were hoping to run into AK or AQ and get a sweet BBJP
Originally posted by nmilan84
Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Nasty cooler.I bet you were hoping to run into AK or AQ and get a sweet BBJP
Yeah, I am always looking for AAA board now for the loss vs higher boat or PP with quads vs quads possibilities which means playing more lower PP in 3 bet pots than I have ever played. That is why I bet too big on this turn because I actually want to go broke here.
Do you guys ever accidentally click call instead of fold preflop playing three tables or more? Well, that's what happened in this hand. I never play 86o on CO vs UTG open. Yes, I did end up playing the hand post flop but the call preflop was a complete accident. And I'm so glad that I didn't call someone's big bet or shove. So I would like to apologize to the villain in the hand if he by some chance comes in here. Because I know he was pretty mad at me afterwards.
GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BTN: 49.6 BB
SB: 80.28 BB
Hero (BB): 117.6 BB
UTG: 73.88 BB
MP: 199.32 BB
CO: 95.08 BB
SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6♦ 5♠
fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) K♠ 4♣ 7♦
SB bets 2 BB, Hero calls 2 BB
Turn: (10 BB, 2 players) 3♠
SB bets 7.52 BB, Hero calls 7.52 BB
River: (25.04 BB, 2 players) J♠
SB bets 25.04 BB, Hero raises to 105.08 BB and is all-in, SB calls 42.72 BB and is all-in
Hero shows 6♦ 5♠ (Straight, Seven High)
(Pre 38%, Flop 34%, Turn 100%)
SB shows K♥ J♣ (Two Pair, Kings and Jacks)
(Pre 62%, Flop 66%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins 156.08 BB
This villain gave me the "Nice Hand!!" Emoji. Such a good sport. Thank you, sir.
Originally posted by Dr1fter808
Do you guys ever accidentally click call instead of fold preflop playing three tables or more?
Mis-click equity is very real. See: https://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3391124#post3391124
You can't fake it though.
Do you guys ever accidentally click call instead of fold preflop
Yup. It happens. Recently i missclicked like half of my stack as an open raise on the button and faced a shove. I had AK and the other player had AQo. It was fun. He correctly deduced that it was a missclick so naturally he shoved and i took his entire stack. To make it worse my button raise is quite wide. Between 70 and 90%
Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
Do you guys ever accidentally click call instead of fold preflop
Yup. It happens. Recently i missclicked like half of my stack as an open raise on the button and faced a shove. I had AK and the other player had AQo. It was fun. He correctly deduced that it was a missclick so naturally he shoved and i took his entire stack. To make it worse my button raise is quite wide. Between 70 and 90%
Wow, good thing you had AK. lol