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[MSS]NL5 - trip J's on flush board

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okay first of all, I don't see any MSS hands around yet for evaluation, so I figured I'd post one. I hope this is the right section as I don't see any MSS section

villain had VPIP/PFR of 35/5

Flush board, but against this range i thought he might aswell be chasing a flush instead of having a made hand already.

Got lucky on the river though and won because the board paired, delivered a very bad beat to villain defeating his nut flush

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

Known players:
[tg]CO$6.22:///////;BU$4.85:///////;SB (Hero)$2.00:///////;BB$1.52:///////;UTG2$7.55:///////;MP1$5.00:///////;MP2$3.02:///////;MP3$5.22:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is SB with J:h, J:c.
2 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.25, BB folds, MP2 calls $0.20.

Flop: ($0.55) J:s, 3:s, 5:s (2 players)
Hero bets $0.35, MP2 calls $0.35.

Turn: ($1.25) K:d (2 players)
Hero bets $0.70, MP2 raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.70.

River: ($4.05) 5:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $4.05.

Results follow:

Hero shows a full-house, jacks full of fives(J:h J:c).
MP2 shows a flush, ace high(9:s A:s).

Hero wins with a full-house, jacks full of fives(J:h J:c).


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Hey

Yes you are welcome to post here :)

If you look carefully, you have $1.75 on the Flop with the Pot being $0.55.

If you bet $0.40 as your cBet & he calls. Your stack is $1.35 and the Turn pot is going to be $0.4+0.4+0.55 = $1.35

You can then shove potsized :) which gives you more EV

As played ofcourse I would bet/call the Turn

Best regards,
Gerv


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Hi,

I'd say nh.

No way to fold set against min-raise imo.
Chances someone flopped a flush is really small so there are not many hands that beat yours.

You didnt gave him a bad beat since he misplayed it from limp/calling pre-flop :f_biggrin:

You could raise 1xbb more preflop for being OOP and you could bet slightly bigger on the flop so turn would be a shove.

T.


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lol posted at the same time as Gerv :P


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AlCaTrAzzALZ
Joined: 06.05.2008

i haven't gone over alot of the new MSS stuff, but bet sizing on that flop, can we cbet more like .45 or even .5? really punish spade draws (since i cant imagine much else that can actually call us on this flop, we have 2 blockers to TP hands, and besides the FD board is super dry)

also, betting .45 or .5 flop, bad players (such as guys who run 35/5) will call with FD, allowing us to shove turn and them thinking "OMG ITS ONLY 1.25 into 1.55!!!!
" giving us even more value from FD?

question for OP - as played on flop, what is your plan on a spade turn?


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Gerv
Joined: 07.05.2008

Originally posted by AlCaTrAzzALZ
i haven't gone over alot of the new MSS stuff, but bet sizing on that flop, can we cbet more like .45 or even .5? really punish spade draws (since i cant imagine much else that can actually call us on this flop, we have 2 blockers to TP hands, and besides the FD board is super dry)

also, betting .45 or .5 flop, bad players (such as guys who run 35/5) will call with FD, allowing us to shove turn and them thinking "OMG ITS ONLY 1.25 into 1.55!!!!
" giving us even more value from FD?

question for OP - as played on flop, what is your plan on a spade turn?

maxEV against chasers is always betting x on Flop to get pot Y on the Turn which is equals to your turnstack Z (so Y=Z by betting X)

If the 4th spade comes, I would c/c since one has topset and therefore there are barely toppairs in his range combo wise

- Gerv


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