[Closed] A6 0.25/0.50 fr

The laydown is nice. I'm not too sure about the flop raise. Calling with the hope of improving looks better to me.

the turn fold is good but i´m not happy with your play before that.
preflop is a fold, isn´t it ? i don´t like the flop as well. maybe i miss something
what was your plan here ? plz mark it for me when you answered

According to SHC you can limp with A6s with two limpers in front of you so that is fine.

I find it confusing that the "action against callers in front of you" is no longer position based.

The following situations are pretty different no?

4 folds MP2 calls MP3 calls CO folds and you limp in from the BU

or: UTG calls UTG1 calls, and you limp from UTG 2

Originally posted by frzl
the turn fold is good but i´m not happy with your play before that.
preflop is a fold, isn´t it ? i don´t like the flop as well. maybe i miss something
what was your plan here ? plz mark it for me when you answered

There was no rasie pre flop so I assume that no one is holding overpair. I think that BB could bet with 5x 6x or flush/straight draw (but still no reads). Maybe he wanted to get some info by betting. So if this is tru I raised for value and protection, I could also kick CO out and take free card or free showdown. As BB is 3beting I called hoping to improve on turn, otherwise I'm folding.

Originally posted by Kimber88
According to SHC you can limp with A6s with two limpers in front of you so that is fine.

This is true, but the hand has to be in the "first-in" chart as well. So you would need at least to be in MP3 here. But I think you can differ from this a little bit depending on the table I think. (A8s would be a call in MP2, so i'ts close.)
It looks like this is a very passive table with a lot of limpers every hand, like you probably knew. If you thought half the table was gonna limp after you, I think it's allright to see a flop with this hand. You have the nut flush draw. Just don't go crazy when you hit your ace but not your kicker.

But on this flop your hand is pretty much worthless I think. I would just play passive and fold unless you have odds to draw to a non heart ace or 6 (3 outs only). This flop is so dangerous in a multiway pot. You could be drawing dead already.

Don't forget you're up against 4 other opponents. Their hands would have to be really bad for you to have the best chance of winning this pot. Also think about the next streets already. You don' want to see any :heart:, K, Q, J, T, 9, 8, 7, 4, 3. In case you would have the best now, you're really hoping for an non-heart A, 6 or 2. You just have to fold too many turns to continue profitably.

comments?

I think that hands that should be also in first in chart are those, that we raise not limp from calling/raising chart.

Hm I think you are right guys, I think it just make my swings higher playing marginal hands like this one.

I think you're right about Macias. It's only for raising apparently

Hi guys,

looks like here's some confusion.

First about the hand:

I don't like the flopraise. You aren't that often ahead anymore. Any beats you. There are a few twopairs possible and you are behind against a set as well. Straight- and flushdraws are possible + the chance that someone already has a straight. That are a lot possible hands that you don't want here.
Protection is nearly not possible as any draw can call for their outs and getting CO off the hand is not that profitable with already two oponents in the hand.
So the only options here are fold or call. Calling is for your outs. You have 2 6 outs and 3 ace outs. 1 ace out isn't clean.
The chance of drawing thn isn't that low so lets say we have 3 outs if we are behind. Therefore you can't call here.

Fold flop would be my play as the preflop limp is for hitting a good hand as well. If you aren't able to fold this hand postflop when hitting yjust a medacre hand then better fold this preflop to prevent you from losing money.

I hope this wasn't to rough.

Ok now the preflop limping thing. I don't think that the positions matters that much as a raise behind you only makes your implied odds better.
The firstin chart is indeed only for playing firstin and doesn't apply to limping.