Lemon Goes Tankroll

    • LemOn36
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      :club: When: Mondays 20:00 - 21:30 CEST
      :club: Coach: LemOn36
      :club: The Challenge: Using $150 on a new site, LemOn will use Tankroll BRM to take the initial capital as far as possible*
      :club: Strategy Used: KTU's Tankroll Bankroll Management
      Article: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/bss/2370/1/
      Video: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/video/34948/
      :club: Coachings: The coachings will feature strategy overview, hand discussion, forum recap of members who dared to challenge and live play

      Dare to take me on and use Tankroll from $150 as well?
      Then simply reply to this thread!
      with a link to your blog, or just post your updates here.
      If you are more successful than me you might be featured in one of future's coachings!

      COACHINGS
      :heart: 1 - Monday 14th 20:00 CEST: BLASTOFF
      1. Introduction of Tankroll BRM
      2. Discussion of who it is suitable for
      3. Start Of Challenge with Live Play.

      slides from first lesson:
      Here are introductory slides from first Session:


      :heart: 2Monday 21st 20:00 CEST; The Saga continues
      1. Recap of last week, update in Challenge
      2. Look at Hand Histories
      3. Live Play according to tankroll

      *Disclaimer


      Start on Monday 14th September
      Tank roll BRM will be used and I can play any number of fast fold and regular tables at will.
      Sites can be swapped should deposit bonus be cleared/expired, sites must be tracked by pokerstrategy.
      I will play a minimum of 7 hours per week.
      This thread will be used to update bankroll status after every Monday's coaching
      Length of challenge depends on popularity of coachings, but should I reach $1000, the Tankroll challenge is over.


      This thread serves as feedback thread, updates from people starting the challenge with me, and on my progress as well.

      :heart: 3 Monday 28 September Repairing The Tank
      1. How to work on your game while Tank Rolling
      2. Live Play
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    • LemOn36
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      WEEK1 BR: $150
      WEEK2 BR: $317
      WEEK3 BR: 216
    • LemOn36
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      In the first session we've discussed how hitting the nuts on the river will never go out of fashion, and is a solid strategy for Tankroll.

      Winning with Ace high when you're bluffing and all draws you can think of get there ain't bad either tho:

      $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      PartyPoker5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
      Stacks:
      UTG ionelherbel ($28.29) 113bb
      CO B196888 ($22.60) 90bb
      BTN Dogh ($31.91) 128bb
      SB Hero ($41.92) 168bb
      BB Terela ($27.31) 109bb
      Pre-Flop: (0.35, 5 players) Hero is SB 8 A

      1 fold, B196888 calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1, Terela calls $0.75, B196888 calls $0.75

      Flop: Q 3 4 ($3, 3 players)
      Hero bets $0.99, Terela folds, B196888 calls $0.99
      Turn: J ($4.98, 2)
      Hero bets $2.98, B196888 calls $2.98
      River: 5 ($10.94, 2)
      Hero checks, B196888 checks
      Final Pot: $10.94
      B196888 shows
      K T
      Hero shows
      8 A
      Hero wins $10.40 (net +$5.43)
      B196888 lost $4.97
      Terela lost $1

    • kerith
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      Is that a Lemon Raise (C) I see on the flop?
    • FollowTheSmartMoney
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      Aldi bet brings it home once again ... :f_cool:
    • LemOn36
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    • LemOn36
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      Party's beginner tables are so much fun that I'll probably stay for one more week:

      $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      PartyPoker6 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by WeakTight Poker Hand History Converter
      Stacks:
      UTG Chriz1010 ($25) 100bb
      UTG+1 Hero ($33.14) 133bb
      CO struhi6 ($40.79) 163bb
      BTN wyrwigrosz44 ($35.02) 140bb
      SB Knarfen ($14) 56bb
      BB Viem105 ($31.18) 125bb
      Pre-Flop: (0.35, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 A A

      1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, 2 folds, Knarfen calls $0.65, Viem105 calls $0.50

      Flop: 9 2 J ($2.25, 3 players)
      Knarfen checks, Viem105 bets $2.14, Hero calls $2.14, Knarfen folds
      Turn: 3 ($6.53, 2)
      Viem105 bets $6.21, Hero calls $6.21
      River: 6 ($18.95, 2)
      Viem105 bets $18.01, Hero goes all-in $24.04, Viem105 goes all-in $4.07
      Final Pot: $65.07
      Hero shows
      A A
      Viem105 shows
      Q 6
      Hero wins $64.03 (net +$30.89)
      Knarfen lost $0.75
      Viem105 lost $31.18
    • LemOn36
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      Straightflush!

      $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Holdem
      PartyPoker6 Players
      Stacks:
      UTG PushyMan ($8.75) 35bb
      UTG+1 EllenDeGeneres ($12.69) 51bb
      CO SKUVEN ($16.53) 66bb
      BTN ptgz_ ($21.80) 87bb
      SB Hero ($83.52) 334bb
      BB Neonfarben ($9.75) 39bb
      Pre-Flop: (0.35, 6 players) Hero is SB K:club: K:spade:

      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Neonfarben calls $0.50

      Flop: K:heart: 10:heart: 7:heart: ($1.50, 2 players)
      Hero bets $1, Neonfarben calls $1
      Turn: 7:diamond: ($3.50, 2)
      Hero bets $2.50, Neonfarben raises to $5, Hero goes all-in $79.27, Neonfarben goes all-in $3
      River: 6:heart: ($93.27, 2), 2 all-in
      Final Pot: $93.27
      Hero shows
      K:club: K:spade:
      Neonfarben shows
      9:heart: 8:heart:
      Neonfarben wins $18.53 (net +$8.78)

      Damn you Rivers!

      partypoker - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (CO): 107.98 BB
      BTN: 56.42 BB (VPIP: 57.38, PFR: 27.87, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 63)
      SB: 58.02 BB (VPIP: 52.38, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 22)
      BB: 239.2 BB (VPIP: 40.63, PFR: 26.04, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 97)
      UTG: 352.82 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 17.78, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 140)

      SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q:club: Q:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 5 BB, SB calls 4.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 26 BB, BTN raises to 56.42 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 30.42 BB

      Flop: (118.84 BB, 2 players) 7:club: 3:heart: 3:spade:

      Turn: (118.84 BB, 2 players) 9:diamond:

      River: (118.84 BB, 2 players) A:spade:

      Hero shows Q:club: Q:heart: (Two Pair, Queens and Threes)
      (Pre 70%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
      BTN shows A:club: Q:spade: (Two Pair, Aces and Threes)
      (Pre 30%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
      BTN wins 112.9 BB
    • FollowTheSmartMoney
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      It seems like you forgot the new important strategy of the last coaching: Always river the nuts! :f_biggrin: :f_biggrin:

      But if it makes you more comfortable: I ran into a straight flush twice today and FHs over Flushes. The fish with the flopped straight Flush even slowrolled me, having the A high flush ... took him years to find the call button on three streets :)

      Poker can be crazy, right?
    • LemOn36
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      That's why it's fun! Somehow in Tankroll it doesn't bother you much. You have set rules, money set away from the challenge, and unlike in poker you don't care about moving up and down as it's expected and really common.


      That being said, let the rivers be with us! :D

      partypoker - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      CO: 114.24 BB (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 38.46, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
      BTN: 39.16 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
      SB: 123.36 BB (VPIP: 26.47, PFR: 16.18, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
      Hero (BB): 102.56 BB
      UTG: 41.44 BB (VPIP: 41.14, PFR: 14.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 159)
      MP: 93.96 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:diamond: J:spade:

      fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, BTN calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 4 BB

      Flop: (12.4 BB, 2 players) 3:heart: 2:club: 4:club:
      Hero bets 3.96 BB, BTN calls 3.96 BB

      Turn: (20.32 BB, 2 players) J:heart:
      Hero bets 32 BB, BTN calls 30.2 BB and is all-in

      River: (80.72 BB, 2 players) 5:heart:

      Hero shows K:diamond: J:spade: (One Pair, Jacks)
      (Pre 38%, Flop 12%, Turn 66%)
      BTN shows T:club: A:club: (Straight, Five High)
      (Pre 62%, Flop 88%, Turn 34%)
      Hero wins 1.8 BB
      BTN wins 76.72 BB
    • infraganti
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      gl
    • LemOn36
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      Tonight 20:00, first week cecap and live play guys!
      We will be starting off at NL50, let's see Where The Tank will take us!
    • tonypmm
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      ^ Did you notice that it was your post #1K? Congrats! :f_drink:
    • LemOn36
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      yay!
      By the way guys, tonight, 20:00 our last session on party Poker.
      We will kickoff a review, look at some losing hands and move on to play live 2 fastforward poker, see you there !
    • FollowTheSmartMoney
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      edit: double post
    • FollowTheSmartMoney
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      So as you said during the coaching, I will post the hand in question where we got called on the turn with A high :f_biggrin:

      Full Tilt - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4: http://www.pokertracker.com

      UTG: 118.2 BB (VPIP: 42.42, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 34)
      MP: 88.8 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
      Hero (CO): 165.6 BB
      BTN: 104 BB
      SB: 38.8 BB (VPIP: 42.31, PFR: 34.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 27)
      BB: 87.4 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Kc Ac
      fold, MP calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, BTN calls 4 BB, SB calls 3.6 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB

      Flop : (17 BB, 4 players) 4h 8c Ks
      SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets 8.4 BB, fold, SB calls 8.4 BB, MP calls 8.4 BB

      Turn : (42.2 BB, 3 players) 2c
      SB checks, MP bets 18 BB, Hero raises to 153.2 BB and is all-in, fold, MP calls 58.4 BB and is all-in

      River : (195 BB, 2 players) 3h

      Hero shows Kc Ac (One Pair, Kings)
      (Pre 71%, Flop 95%, Turn 100%)

      MP shows Ah 9h (High Card, Ace)
      (Pre 29%, Flop 5%, Turn 0%)

      Hero wins 183.6 BB
    • FollowTheSmartMoney
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      To get a bit more serious, this is a hand I think I misplayed a bit. I do not like the preflop call oop much. Postflop however is ok, unfortunately I think that we have to fold the turn - or am I wrong? I do not see so much lower pockets in his range on the turn:

      LOLPokeragain - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 47.4 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      UTG: 328.8 BB (VPIP: 27.71, PFR: 19.88, 3Bet Preflop: 10.94, Hands: 170)
      MP: 138.4 BB (VPIP: 22.67, PFR: 14.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 76)
      CO: 94.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
      BTN: 41.2 BB (VPIP: 37.21, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 44)
      Hero (SB): 100 BB

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J:diamond: J:heart:

      UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, CO raises to 10.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 10 BB, fold, UTG calls 7.4 BB

      Flop: (32.2 BB, 3 players) 4:spade: 9:heart: 6:spade:
      Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets 17 BB, Hero calls 17 BB, fold

      Turn: (66.2 BB, 2 players) A:heart:
      Hero checks, CO bets 19 BB, fold

      CO wins 62.4 BB
    • FollowTheSmartMoney
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      And the last one I was talking about ... twopair on the flop multiway vs. a maniac who just instantly shoves. I still think a call is mandatory, or isn't it?

      AnotherLOLPokerhand- $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      Hero (SB): 104.6 BB
      BB: 64 BB (VPIP: 38.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 54)
      UTG: 416 BB (VPIP: 39.29, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
      MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 56)
      CO: 365.8 BB (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 18.13, 3Bet Preflop: 7.38, Hands: 349)
      BTN: 105.6 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 11.43, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 35)

      Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6:heart: 5:heart:

      UTG raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 2 BB, Hero calls 1.6 BB, BB calls 1 BB

      Flop: (8 BB, 4 players) 6:spade: 3:spade: 5:spade:
      Hero checks, BB bets 62 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, Hero calls 62 BB

      Turn: (132 BB, 2 players) 9:heart:

      River: (132 BB, 2 players) 6:club:

      BB shows 9:spade: 4:spade: (Flush, Nine High)
      (Pre 54%, Flop 83%, Turn 91%)
      Hero shows 6:heart: 5:heart: (Full House, Sixes full of Fives)
      (Pre 46%, Flop 17%, Turn 9%)
      Hero wins 124.4 BB
    • LemOn36
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      Ye I'd just pitch the JJ pre, vs UTG/CO especially vs that size
      The 65 we got to call especially closing the action. Nice River skills right there, A+ :D
    • LemOn36
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      So the time has come. The Party's over. Time to move our Tankroll BR to 888

      NL30 Snap Poker, plenty of players. And of course. This

      Let the fun begin, I'll try to show some webcam table action on Monday, probably recorded though. Don;t feel like giving away strategy and my hand to the people live would help my winrate much :D
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