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Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($129)
BB ($103)
Hero ($146)
CO ($115)
BTN ($226) VP:34/PFR:18/3B from BU:13/CBet:86%/WTSD:31

Dealt to Hero T♦ T♠

Hero raises to $3.50, fold, BTN raises to $10, fold, fold, Hero calls $6.50

FLOP ($21.50) 8♦ J♠ A♠

Hero checks, BTN bets $9.75, Hero raises to $24, BTN calls $14.25

TURN ($69.50) 8♦ J♠ A♠ 8♣

Hero checks, BTN checks

RIVER ($69.50) 8♦ J♠ A♠ 8♣ 4♣

Hero checks, BTN checks

Pre flop I think it is ok to call vs his wide 3B range.
On the flop I can Ck/F but since he has a wide 3B range and high Cbet I think C/R is also ok.
Once he calls the flop I don't think I should continue but I am not sure


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ttjjboy
Joined: 31.05.2009

I'd 4bet - push as op


Dublimax Topic starter
Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

I am not 4B/Calling with TT here.
Why should I iso myself vs the top of his range?


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by ttjjboy
I'd 4bet - push as op

100BB deep this might be ok, but for 150 it's definitely -EV unless the opponent is either 3betting like crazy or capable of 5betbluffing that deep.

So I think preflop it's fine to call.

On the flop it's generally possible to checkraise. However, if you do so it's crucial to follow through, imo it's even mandatory to bet turn and shove river because you'll never get any Ax to fold on the flop, most will also call the turn but only very few will call the river - even AK probably just folds.
Also most opponents will shove the turn with 2pair+.


ttjjboy
Joined: 31.05.2009

oh u r right
I forgot the stake size


Dublimax Topic starter
Dublimax
Joined: 22.11.2008

Originally posted by Bierbaer
On the flop it's generally possible to checkraise. However, if you do so it's crucial to follow through, imo it's even mandatory to bet turn and shove river because you'll never get any Ax to fold on the flop, most will also call the turn but only very few will call the river - even AK probably just folds.
Also most opponents will shove the turn with 2pair+.

Ok so we want to make Ax fold by following through.

I suppose we have to do it vs the right opponent though.
Here villain had WTSD 31 so I guess that would be great bc he probably doesn't fold Ax


Bierbaer
Joined: 27.05.2005

Originally posted by Dublimax

Originally posted by Bierbaer
On the flop it's generally possible to checkraise. However, if you do so it's crucial to follow through, imo it's even mandatory to bet turn and shove river because you'll never get any Ax to fold on the flop, most will also call the turn but only very few will call the river - even AK probably just folds.
Also most opponents will shove the turn with 2pair+.

Ok so we want to make Ax fold by following through.

I suppose we have to do it vs the right opponent though.
Here villain had WTSD 31 so I guess that would be great bc he probably doesn't fold Ax

I wouldn't be too sure about this.
Even if he likes to go to SD in general this might change a lot when he's that deep and facing 3 big bets.
But of course not bluffing for 150BB is probably the better option in this spot because we can make a huge mistake even if he's only calling slightly too much.


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