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[Closed] PP on a drawy turn with 2OC

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nidorino
Joined: 16.09.2010

This is my first HH for evaluation so pls be patient with lack of info.
This are 2 fishes with BB 34/8 so is turn a mandatory bet?

I]Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$1/$2 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T:c, T:h.
MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6 SB) J:h, 9:c, 7:h (3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4.5 BB) Q:h (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, MP2 checks.

River: (4.5 BB) 3:h (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 6.5 BB.
Results follow:

Hero shows a flush, queen high(T:c T:h).
MP2 shows a flush, queen high(6:h A:s).

Hero wins with a flush, queen high(T:c T:h).

Feels like I missplayed turn quite hard or is it b/f on turn?


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taavi1337
Joined: 29.05.2009

There's no way you can b/f the turn, you have an oesd+3rd nut flushdraw. I still like a bet more than a check, you still get value from 9x, 7x, 8x, Tx and every flushdraw. So I would b/c and take it from there


Dawnfall26
Joined: 30.07.2008

Hi!

b/f turn is the worst option.Getting 1:7,5 it would great error to fold so many outs and possibly best hand.

Best play is to bet.You are a decent favourite here.Sure that Q is not the nicest card and quite a few hands has you beat now but against most of these you are drawing very very live with posibly up to 15 outs.But since nobody raise preflop Jx has to be discounted and also FD to some degree as many players would raise that.So that leaves them with a ton of 9x,7x,pockets,random backdoors or even just some other random hands as they are fish...all this combined your equity is far far beyond your fair share and best way to exploit bad loose players is to go for max value...that is to bet

So turn play is b/c.

If raised you can fold river on any blank if its still 3way.If it is HU I would call in this huge pot as bluffs are never impossible and you dont need to be best all that often(hands like A :heart:x are very posible) If you hit river straight I would donk/call it since you dont want to checkback by 2 pairs. If you hit T you should c/crying call. If you hit flush its between d/c and c/c. I preffer d/c for almost same reason as if you hit straight.

Hand that MP2 shows is perfect example why you should bet turn.He makes too many stupid flop calls like this and you just have to exploit it.


bet/call turn, donk this river

or

bet, bet for value.

Your T-high FD is actually the 3rd nut and so its worth 6 outs, your gutter draw is another 2ish. Even hitting a T will occasionally be good. Slightly over 8 outs at 7.5:1 you would be making a large mistake in folding to a raise.

When you bet lots of worse hands will call again, like Tx, and pretty much any single heart.

Rarely, but sometimes better hands will fold or hands that have a good amount of equity against you... like Jx or AKo. This is also a very positive result.