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PaPi92
Joined: 17.02.2011

Unknown player.
If he don`t play AQ so, he have only QQ,JJ,(QJ and T9s if he calls pre flop).
What do you think? Is this very tight fold and without info that he is good player I should call?

Poker Stars $20+$2 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 9 players - View hand 2012621
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CO: t3445 86.12 BBs
BTN: t5418 135.45 BBs
SB: t2910 72.75 BBs
BB: t3000 75 BBs
UTG: t2724 68.10 BBs
UTG+1: t3065 76.62 BBs
UTG+2: t2983 74.58 BBs
MP1: t2783 69.58 BBs
Hero (MP2): t2765 69.12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is MP2 with A :club: A :diamond:
UTG raises to t120, 3 folds, Hero raises to t335, 4 folds, UTG calls t215

Flop: (t730) Q :diamond: J :club: 4 :heart: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t320, UTG calls t320

Turn: (t1370) 8 :spade: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t630, UTG raises to t1280, Hero folds


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masa9
Joined: 23.11.2010

i would checkback often here ott (and im not resultsoriented) ready to bluffcatch or valuebet the river on good cards if checked to us. as played we have to fold to his raise.


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TheRebuz
Joined: 12.10.2008

the big's imo r full of fishes so imo

on that flop i go for big bets 2/3, 2/3 get it in

as played that min raise is ugly looks like villain likes his hand
but imo only hand that he plays that way is and make sence is T9s
i think that if he had QQ/JJ he would just call or shove on turn
i think same goes for 88/44
also i think if he slow plays QJ on flop i think he will shove or just call turn again

so i find hard way to fold here (i dont think villain fold AQ/KQs preflop to start with) i call(dont know how much stack u have behind but if u had less then 1200 i shove) and probly call most rivers

thats why i like to bet biger on that flop to start with to get it in on turn


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Hi,

I feel like, in general, Check-call flop Check-minraise turn is pretty much never a bluff. and if he wants to get a Q in I think he would raise the flop, this line looks obscenely strong and in situations like this i usually take a 'bet until i get raised' approach. which is exactly what i would do here.

I don't see any reason to check the turn, overall the guys most likely hand that you're gonna get value from is a Q and a bad player isn't going to be folding one. No reason to lose value. IMO his logic is something like this:

"let's see if he bets the turn aswell, if he does he probably has a pretty good hand himself and he isn't going to fold to a minraise" pretty sure his range is QJ minimum I don't think he has any 1 pair hands or draws this seems like a pretty annoying but trivial fold to me. only hand I think you have beat here is a slowplayed KK but i figure he would cram rather than minraise.

As you're readless you should just take the line that you think works best vs most recreational players, ofcourse some will have draws here and some will have Qx, and you will find this out later on if he's just a monkey and you can catch him later. but on the other side of the coin there are guys who do this with nothing less than a set so I don't think you should be thinking 'but what if he's that guy who overplays top pair' or 'what if he's the guy that randomly checkraises air here' those guys exist but we need to take a rule of thumb approach here and I think you're going to be drawing thin here too much against your average player


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PaPi92
Joined: 17.02.2011

The stack sizes isn`t good for 2/3 bet on the flop.
If I bet 480 for example, I will have 1935 behind and 1690 in the pot on the turn.
With this stack size small bets on three streets(all in on the river) is the best.


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should be two pair+ most of the times unless he plays really strange KK or Qx or decides to bluff. I think you should decide on the turn if you take b/f or bet/shove line. If you want you can always check back and call his river bet- not too many players would c/c you down with Qx or worse hands.

With aces I would likely go there, although I never really have seen players c/r turn with worse hands (or at least I don´t remember ), but I´d better play there for stacks against unknown that make very big mistake folding best hand against some maniac.

best regards,


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007

Hi all,

Vs an unknown in the Big22 I think a bet/bet/shove line is best. As a result, I like your entire hand as played!


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