Homegame Hand 1: River on Double Paired Board

i can really only see myself with AT - AJ - AQ - AK here calling. simply because i think BTN is only betting Ax here. the ranges to me are so narrow when he checks the turn and bets the river on a double paired board. to me its Ax or 3 (which slowplays horribly bad in this situation and id never expect that line from anyone else than a retarded monkey) Even when the villian is a good playing reg i just cant see any lower high cards than Ax here betting river. MAYBE K high but even then .. to me the lines seem like Ax vs Ax too often..

best hand to fold A9

1) don't worry about these things
2) don't play regs

Originally posted by taavi1337
1) don't worry about these things
2) don't play regs

1) Why not? This seems to be a perfect spot to actually analyse both turn checking ranges and how they lead into river ranges so I don't see why this isn't a thing that can be looked at, especailly as a group

2) Kinda hard to do in a homegame but generally as you go up the ladder you're going to end up playing vs regs at some point so a blanket answer like that really isn't a help

It probably is a perfect spot to analyse. But what is your real goal? For me the target would be to play very good in every spot that comes up in-game. I don't think these analysis improve your actual game very much. I find it very hard to put this in practice.

I see many people starting out with FL making this mistake. They go through lots of abstract analysis and worry if their analysis is correct. At the same time they make very simple mistakes while playing.

The stakes are 5c/10c and if your focus here is to outplay the good regulars then you're focusing on totally wrong things. You should avoid regs as much as possible. Don't be afraid of them, but play them as less as possible. Avoiding regulars is a very important skill. At least up to 2/4 just learn to exploit the bad players.

Just learn to read your opponent's game. Do it while playing and focus on concrete situations.

Originally posted by taavi1337
It probably is a perfect spot to analyse. But what is your real goal? For me the target would be to play very good in every spot that comes up in-game. I don't think these analysis improve your actual game very much. I find it very hard to put this in practice.

I see many people starting out with FL making this mistake. They go through lots of abstract analysis and worry if their analysis is correct. At the same time they make very simple mistakes while playing.

The stakes are 5c/10c and if your focus here is to outplay the good regulars then you're focusing on totally wrong things. You should avoid regs as much as possible. Don't be afraid of them, but play them as less as possible. Avoiding regulars is a very important skill. At least up to 2/4 just learn to exploit the bad players.

Just learn to read your opponent's game. Do it while playing and focus on concrete situations.

taavi theres something your missing i think

the game was 5c/10c in PokerStrategy's home game. we plan to do a homegame every month. I was in that game vs boomer and dawn and stampman.. so the dont play regs i must admit my friend doesn't belong here. we played each other on purpose for the sake of coaching/video. and i think you are a bit wrong. playing regs forces you to be better than them if you want to stay in a game where there is 4 regs 2 fish. you need to be the best to stay profitable yes ? so its not avoid regs. its learn to play them but focus on the fish/bad player the most. yes table selecting is an important skill we all know that. but this was a homegame 5/10c it could just as well have been 5/10 dollar game but since we didnt wanted to put much money in / could afford it it became a 5/10c table we played at..

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