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22$; 10man; bb40; KK, 3bet pot oop, A high board

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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

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NL Holdem $40(BB) Replayer
Hero ($2,000)
BB ($2,000)
UTG ($2,000)
UTG+1 ($2,000)
UTG+2 ($2,000)
MP1 ($2,000)
MP2 ($2,000)
MP3 ($2,000)
CO ($2,000)
BTN ($2,000)

Dealt to Hero K♣ K♥

fold, fold, UTG+2 calls $40, fold, fold, MP3 raises to $120, fold, fold, Hero raises to $330, fold, fold, MP3 calls $210

FLOP ($740) 6♣ 9♣ A♦

Hero checks, MP3 bets $370, Hero calls $370

TURN ($1,480) 6♣ 9♣ A♦ 8♣

Hero checks, MP3 bets $1,110, Hero folds

MP3 wins $1,480

decent reg, 14/9/5/445, fold to 3bet 67%(6), fold to cbet 20%(5), isolating limpers when in EP/MP 4%(46)

pretty much standard?

if I cbet flop i dont really see many worse hands calling, maybe none even, but they may decide to bet if i check so i cant imagine ch/folding flop.

turn - all the worst hands should now check back (i dont really expect an average winning plr to turn TT-QQ into a bluff here, even if he has a :club:, at least not until ive got some history of him being creative) so i dont need to worry too much abt ch/folding the best hand imo and this way I at least get to 'pot control' it a bit.

when he fires so big (and leaves 190 chips behind for some reason) i cant do anything but fold i guess and even the fact that i have a 2nd nutFD is not gonna change it, right?


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lets think about his range.

1. he is isolating a limper = stronger than open raising.
2. he flatted your 3bet OOP = quite strong.

I would put him on AQ+ 99+.

so on this flop you lose vs everything in that range apart from TT-QQ.

you will get no value from TT-QQ and he is just going to check back flop with those hands. so you should c/f flop.


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wiarygodny
Joined: 16.07.2009

yeah, makes sense, thanks!

just out of curiosity - would you cbet small (~250) / fold if we had a lower pocket (JJ-TT, not that i would neccesarily 3bet those pre but for the sake of this argument lets assume i would) just for the off chance of folding out his KK-QQ if he doesn't ship them pre and gets scared of the A on the flop?


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don't worry about situations that will never happen.

you will never 3b 99-JJ, so you don't need to know what to do with those hands.

I think you should be checking this flop with your whole range. check/inducing with AK/AA and check/folding with QQ-KK.


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