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J8s vs raise turn

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GingerKid
Joined: 05.08.2007

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 170.78 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 16)
Hero (SB): 202.1 BB
BB: 63.58 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: 108.7 BB (VPIP: 6.25, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
MP: 60.18 BB (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
CO: 104 BB (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 33)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8♣ J♣

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, CO calls 7 BB

Flop: (21 BB, 2 players) Q♠ T♣ Q♣
Hero bets 12 BB, CO calls 12 BB

Turn: (45 BB, 2 players) 3♠
Hero bets 26 BB, CO raises to 52 BB, Hero raises to 180.1 BB and is all-in, fold

Hero wins 144 BB

Is it too wide to 3bet?
I dont have any specific reads on him, but his turn raise looks as bluff to me because I would expect him to call down IP with Qx, or TT. So is my shove ok, when I think he bluffs, and I have still outs? Because when I call, he wins on blank.

I think he can float flop with AJ, AK, KJ (if not 4b) and turn into bluff.


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Hi GingerKid,

I think that 3-betting that against unknown is fine but it depends on how wide you really 3-bet overall.

While I don't agree that he never has Qx I do agree that the raise looks a bit suspicious. So our play is fine.


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