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Raising a nut flush draw vs a Maniac

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

once a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.
PokerStars Limit 5 Card Draw $0.10/$0.20 - 6 players

UTG: $3.77
UTG+1: $1.70
CO: $3.08
Button: $2.95 (Hero)
SB: $3.90 72/50/3.6/47 60 (v/p/af/3Bet hands)
BB: $0.67 61/0/0.2/10

SB & BB were capping pre w/ AAxxx, and 3Betting post-draw w/ jacks up

On seeing this hand, I thought that if even one of them 3Bets pre, I have pot odds to call. If both do, it's just gravy.

If I hit, I can get even more, and I would not try to bluff these either of these guys unless I do.

Dealing Hands: ($0.15) A♦ T♦ 8♦ 2♠ 5♦ (6 players)
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, SB raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20, Hero calls $0.10

First Draw: ($0.90) (3 players)
SB discards 3, BB discards 2, Hero discards 1,
A♦ T♦ 8♦ 5♦ || 9♦
SB bets $0.20, BB calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.40, SB raises to $0.60, BB folds, Hero ???

Before we get into calling the post-draw 4Bet, should I have 3Bet post-draw?

Now the 4Bet...

Note:
I thought afterward that vs such a certainty of being called, perhaps I should be folding these, and actually did fold the next one, although in that case I was facing a bet and raise from the same two pre-draw.

TIA.
--VS


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With such a notes/stats I would 12-bet postdraw.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

In the position marked ??? yeah, you have to -- and I did.

Remember that even bad players get good hands now and again.
He had jacks up.

But should you bet a nut flush draw as a semi bluff pre-draw KNOWING you're going to get raised?


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But should you bet a nut flush draw as a semi bluff pre-draw KNOWING you're going to get raised?

With those 2 idiots I would give up even a very good flushdraw on the BTN.
At first it may sounds weak but once you get called by 22 or 3bet/call by 66 you'll get it :)

That's the poker...we need to adjust to our "friends".
Sometimes we'll raise 8h flushdraw UTG, sometimes fold A flushdraw on the BTN.


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Anykey444
Joined: 05.02.2011

It's not a flop game so it's just Ahigh flush draw, not nut
Opp could have should have AKQJ of another suite


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