Originally posted by kurrkabin
I've seen in some videos of ZZzTilt that he prefers to c/r his weak hands here-like 2x and 5x as we don't know how villain will continue on the turn-is he double barreling with nothing, is he value betting a good 5, is he betting with a much better hand and thus there ain't almost any good turn/rivers for us, so that leaves us in the dark. Even if he bets flop with nothing, by us c/c he still has about 25% with 2 overs to counterfeit our pair by the river.
So if we go with population tendencies of fish limping weak range and more often lead it than c/b, than I think c/r with 2x,5x becomes a reasonable line.
In general, people don't blindly triple off stacks on this board in my experience. With all due respect to zzztilt, check/raising flops with our 2x/5x type hands appears to be done without a real plan past the flop. We're turning a pair into a bluff on the flop, which isn't generally a good plan for HUSNGs.
What is your plan if we checkraise and get shoved on? Or villain calls? Both are very likely options when villain pots flop, and certainly he can have both a stronger hand than us and draws, and now we have no plan past our checkraise - or we're getting in stacks with a marginal hand and not a lot in the way of reads. Since we should also be flatting our Tx hands here, calling will often freeze opponent into checking a lot of brick turns. If it doesn't and opponent is the type to barrel off blindly, we're going to get into better spots when we're likely to have that stronger read.
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