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Too passive down to the river?

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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 2727125
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BTN: $2.97
SB: $9.82
Hero (BB): $1.65
UTG: $1.28
MP: $2.01
CO: $1.91

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with K♦ T♣ 7♦ T♥
UTG raises to $0.04, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.13) 7♣ 2♦ 4♦ (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.08, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.08

Turn: ($0.29) 2♠ (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

River: ($0.57) T♠ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, UTG raises to $1.02 all in, Hero calls $0.47

I am just wondering if this is general bad play or whether you would stay in the hand to the river. Do I x/r flop to maximise fold equity on the turn considering I have an overpair and a flush draw. I did play this hand very passively and from a results orientated view you could say I was just unlucky but I am not sure whether or not I should have continued past turn.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi, WhiteWalker,
I'm no Omaha expert, but from what little experience I do have, I find that being passive just gives them a chance to outdraw you.
In this case, I'm guessing you out drew them?

I can't see the hole cards, but I'm guessing there's a pair of 4s in there?

Cheers,
VS


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved you’re hand to the hand discussion board for you. That fits better.
Further looks you’re line standard to me, but I’m no Omaha expert as well :f_wink:

Cheers,
SDK1987


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meetya
Joined: 11.03.2007

imo ur line is fine (except for the river).
[F] i wouldnt want to get it in on the flop with ur hand (with an SPR of ~10) and i wouldnt want to x/r/f either, so i think x/c is fine.
[T] most players will cbet this turn with the vast majority of their range and ur equity should be decent quite often.
[R] imo donking pot here looks extremely strong and only makes sense with very few hands (so ur gonna have troubles balancing it). furthermore u dont get any more value from his bluffs by donking. and there might be some fullhouses that would flat ur donk, but call a x/r. (i even think u get more value from AA by checking (i would much rather bet AA for value than call a donk) but i might be wrong about that). so i think u get a lot more value by x/r.


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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
Hi, WhiteWalker,
I'm no Omaha expert, but from what little experience I do have, I find that being passive just gives them a chance to outdraw you.
In this case, I'm guessing you out drew them?

I can't see the hole cards, but I'm guessing there's a pair of 4s in there?

Cheers,
VS

Beaten by Quad 2's haha. So you feel a raise on the turn and fold if re-raised is better to fold out overpairs and have the initiative on the river?
I really need a system to consider the value hands he has vs potential semi/pure bluff hands and how to proceed on flop and turn whether a call or raise is suitable.


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meetya
Joined: 11.03.2007

Originally posted by WhiteWalker
So you feel a raise on the turn and fold if re-raised is better to fold out overpairs and have the initiative on the river?

even though ur hand isnt strong, i think its still too strong to turn it into a bluff. if, lets say, u had a Thigh fd instead of the 2nd nfd, or (for whatever reason) u had 66 instead of TT (there are probably better examples), id be more inclined to x/r as a bluff.


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WhiteWalker
Joined: 06.06.2015

Fair. I don't like a check raise out of position to be honest, especially against a passive opponent who I feel is only calling a raise with better and as a result I imediately fold out his bluffs and even hands that are dominating me which I have good equity at.

It is an interesting spot though.


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