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i got cold 4b after squeezing with AKs

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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

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SB: $9.90 - VPIP: 33, PFR: 11, 3B: 8, AF: 8.0, Hands: 54
BB: $5.00 - VPIP: 26, PFR: 20, 3B: 3, AF: 1.1, Hands: 110
UTG: $9.12 - VPIP: 34, PFR: 23, 3B: 6, AF: 7.3, Hands: 403
MP: $12.45 - VPIP: 45, PFR: 32, 3B: 17, AF: 3.8, Hands: 465
Hero (CO): $19.29 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 18, 3B: 7, AF: 2.6, Hands: 59644
BTN: $13.85 - VPIP: 28, PFR: 17, 3B: 7, AF: 2.0, Hands: 123

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is CO with A :heart: K :heart:
UTG raises to $0.15, MP calls $0.15, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.99, 3 folds


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BB does not look like idiot to do this with AQ - AT.

You need to win about 45% vs his range to break even.

I prefer fold.


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MJPerry
Joined: 03.10.2011

We're 40% against KK+, AK. I think it's close.

It's probably a fold but in-game I'd call and then curse my bad luck when he flips AA.


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

Originally posted by MJPerry

It's probably a fold but in-game I'd call and then curse my bad luck when he flips AA.

:f_biggrin: that's what I normally do I decided not to this time


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Yeah, FrozenElf,
Good fold.
Equilab says:

       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    37.06%   8.19%  28.87% { AKo }
MP3    62.94%  34.08%  28.87% { KK+, AKs, AKo }

But look at the huge amount of that is "Tie".
If you do tie, you just feed the rake monster, and you both lose.

Kiss your 15 BB goodbye and on to the next hand.

I see players shove over a squeeze in zoom much more than ever in regular format.
I suspect that some of them may be bluffing, so I note them.
The idea is that if I see it 3 times, I'll look them up with QQ+ AK+

That will be the one time out of the three they actually have it, of course, but hey, that's poker.

Peace,
VS


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

As we hold 1 A and 1 K and thus reducing the AK comboes...and as we take into account that he pushed directly... I prefer the safer fold.


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Alleen86
Joined: 27.05.2010

Just fold and be proud of yourself. ;) If you then see him doing that every single hand and realize that he is tilting, then you can call AJo.


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mattyvx
Joined: 15.04.2015

vs this villian UTG a like 3betting UTG as it would appear he's loose enough - but generally people aren't opening enough and you can consider cold calling it


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

He is attacking the superwide MP too.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

You weren't by any chance playing zoom on PokerStars at apprimately 19h UTC were you?

The reason I asked is that today -- at about that time I discovered that the room was crawling with 3Bettors.

Most (the total unknowns) I just folded. But some I decided to bluff 4Bet. Successfully 3 times.
I did poorly calling the 4Bets (lost 3 of 5) -- but largely due to post-flop getting out-drawn.

I think that having a bluff 4Bet range is a good idea, and I may move some hands from my "Call 3Bet" to "4Bet/fold"

I'm not saying go all spew-happy, but keep in mind that some of these 3Bets are full of doo-doo.

Peace,
VS


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

yes doo doo :f_thumbsup:

I called for the main reason I thought that he would make many postflop mistakes like bluff like he did in this hand and if he did have a monster I thought I could probable stack him + pick up some pots like that when he has AQ or small pockets


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FrozenElf
Joined: 06.07.2015

Originally posted by VorpalF2F

You weren't by any chance playing zoom on PokerStars at apprimately 19h UTC were you?

The reason I asked is that today -- at about that time I discovered that the room was crawling with 3Bettors.

VS

if your asking me I don't play zoom sorry


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
You weren't by any chance playing zoom on PokerStars at apprimately 19h UTC were you?

The reason I asked is that today -- at about that time I discovered that the room was crawling with 3Bettors.

Most (the total unknowns) I just folded. But some I decided to bluff 4Bet. Successfully 3 times.
I did poorly calling the 4Bets (lost 3 of 5) -- but largely due to post-flop getting out-drawn.

I think that having a bluff 4Bet range is a good idea, and I may move some hands from my "Call 3Bet" to "4Bet/fold"

I'm not saying go all spew-happy, but keep in mind that some of these 3Bets are full of doo-doo.

Peace,
VS

For bluff 4B, better choose the next hands, after the call 3 bet range.


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Ales851
Joined: 16.07.2012

Clear fold (not so easy I know :f_biggrin:)

In fact I believe that even fold with KK can be good here. Against KK+, AK with KK it would be probably almost BE call after rake counting (maybe slightly profitable but not too much and with huge variance) but villain can also often have just KK+ and then call is very bad.


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