Straight draw, flush draw, royal flush... easy fold?

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VS

Oh, yes -- the hand,
Hmmm, On that flop, I think that the two best choices are:
 check behind -- if you hit your flush UTG cannot call your shove. This gives you the opportunity to shove when you make your flush OTT -- let villain call if he wants. If he hits his outs, well, that's poker.

Oh wait -- if you are BB, and he is UTG, then you act first. Checking behind is not an option. That leaves...

 Shove -- this is a semi-bluff, but it will likely fold out all hands except those that already beat you -- but you have outs vs those. If a made flush or straight exists, you have have fewer outs, but they are all good. Again, if villain calls here -- and he might -- the outcome would have been the same.

Betting small OTF won't fold out many made hands except a few pairs, and few worse will call. It also gives villain a chance to do exactly what he did.

I'm super-tight in tournaments, so for me this is a fold pre-flop especially with a raise and two callers before me. I think that too often this hand is dominated by AK, AJ even KQ hands. Even Ace-rag hands have more equity than us pre-flop.

I'm curious to see what others think about this hand. This is a spot where I think I make a lot of mistakes, but I never know whether my mistake was calling or folding. <sigh>

All the best,
VS

I am not the expert ofc, but I would not raise with KJo out of position against 4 limpers with only ~20 BB left in my stack. It does not look like raise for value, nor does it look like bluff - the bet is too small for that.

But anyways, we need to determine whether you can make a profitable call after the flop or not.
After the flop and after continuation bet you are left with around 9200 chips. The pot is 15000 (10000 + 5000 raise), and the guy shoves all-in. Of course you need to call only 9200 of his 25000 push, so it's 9200 / 24200(the actual pot size after his push) + 9200 = 0.27 (or 27%).
Your hand needs to have only 27% of equity to make this call profitable.
Even against a very specific push range (AQs-ATs,KQs,AJo+,KQo) your hand has 45% equity, which is more than enough.

TLDR: Preflop not good, flop call is fine.

I would check pre-flop as well. Other option would be a shove I think.
Then you will win the pot a lot of the time without a showdown and then you don’t play a big pot out of position.

As played I would stack off as well for 10k chips more. You have the best draw possible here.

Cheers,
SDK1987

I would have shoved flop, the river sucks in hindsight but you have 2nd pair and a ton of outs.