NL10 - JJ on low flop vs Aggresive bets

Folding turn is not wrong but in this case villain can have pretty much anything. You have a decent amount of hands of villain and he seems pretty aggressive.. If he has 77 or 22 OTF why would he donk? The flop is very dry. OTT his raise is huge. It really looks like he wants you to fold

You could raise him OTF?

I indeed also think he is just putting you in front of a stack decision. I think about draws, over-pairs maybe even an A-2s or something. I may have shoved something like that:f_biggrin:

Guys, we make a solid bet and he raises nearly 3.5x... Not to play around here, fold is ok.

Originally posted by la55i
Folding turn is not wrong but in this case villain can have pretty much anything. You have a decent amount of hands of villain and he seems pretty aggressive.. If he has 77 or 22 OTF why would he donk? The flop is very dry. OTT his raise is huge. It really looks like he wants you to fold

You could raise him OTF?

Liked ur donking point. This really doesnt make any sense in such dry board.
Because of that, I m really confused here too, like stompy91 was ♠_ugly:

Villain can donk with small pokets - 33,44,55,66, or some middle pairs 88,99,TT too.

If its right, seems like he improved on the turn. And this makes total sense.

And what is the purpose of yor post?

The purpose of possibly finding a sense in a play that I was trying to figure out what could have happened, putting it in words. So, if I m wrong in my thinking, someone reply to it explaining what he thinks about it.

Its a forum, we share thoughts.

blank space. Your aproval does not make my thoughts better or worse.

This is a very strange line. Value doesn't make much sense but neither do bluffs. You have good sample so you want to see his donk flop stat before making the decision. With the info you provided I think shove turn should be fine. If I had to try and soulread, my bet is on spades FD but my confidence in the prediction is really low... (donk flop BDFD; turn thinks he doesn't have enough FE on blank and/or fears getting shoved over => check; sees the big bet, doesn't have odds to call OOP and semibluffs)

This hand reminded me of a concept I heard a while ago from a coach that is good to keep in mind. As you go up the limits and play against more competent opponents, those weird lines will usually be for value. The reason is they will know their line doesn't make sense or they don't represent any strong hands => they expect to be looked up often and do it with their strong hands. Such lines also often turn out to be the nuts on micros but these usually involve some kind of slowplaying.

Well, this concept has its logic, thank you.
As played I think he got lucky with his 44.

Originally posted by nitrol
blank space. Your aproval does not makemy thoughts better or worse.

So u think this way? Really interesting...

Anyway, you have the right to be as much contradictory as u want to be.

Well, taking something out of context does not mean anything.
This does not change the fact that your post is blank.
Good luck with that.

Originally posted by nitrol
As played I think he got lucky with his 44.

I was thinking about it but decided he's probably not raising that big with a fullhouse there.

Originally posted by nitrol
Well, taking something out of context does not mean anything.
This does not change the fact that your post is blank.
Good luck with that.
Its the same thing (even worse). I said one thing, and u posted just to agree with.

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
blank space. Your aproval does not makemy thoughts better or worse.

So u think this way? Really interesting...

Spoiler

About this one:
I wrote:
Well, on nl10 many players continue on Axx boards. So?

You answered right away:
So second barrels are ready to take place.

And I confirmed:
There is nothing wrong with the 2nd barrel. Works fine.

Start reading...

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
Well, taking something out of context does not mean anything.
This does not change the fact that your post is blank.
Good luck with that.
Its the same thing. I said one thing, and u posted just to agree with.

Read above, you ignorant.

Originally posted by Afulibador

Originally posted by nitrol
blank space. Your aproval does not makemy thoughts better or worse.

So u think this way? Really interesting...

Spoiler

This is a continuation:
You quote my post and write:
Its all about adapting vs what villains are doing.

I think I have the right to answer when being quoted:
Yes, we should addapt our game.

START READING, MAN...