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LoBrue
Joined: 09.11.2013

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 98.5 BB
SB: 151 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 241.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
MP: 118.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: 93 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♦ Q♥

fold, fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12 BB, CO raises to 40 BB, fold, Hero calls 28 BB

Flop: (84 BB, 2 players) 9♠ 6♣ 7♥
Hero checks, CO bets 53 BB and is all-in, fold

CO wins 81 BB

Hi guys,

@ the flop I just see the JJ+ in his range:

Board: 7♥9♠6♣
       Equity     Win     Tie
CO     62.89%  58.98%   3.91% { JJ+ }
BB     37.11%  33.21%   3.91% { QdQh }

What you guys think about the preflop-call after his 4bet?
I think I have to play this hand in a better way. Cuz if i call the 4bet @ preflop and I do not want to call his push @ flop I shouldnt call his preflop 4bet.
What you guys think about 3bet -> fold @ preflop? I think this hand is a little bit to strong to 3-bet->fold it.
Maybe I should just call the openraise, but I am OOP and dont like to play this OOP so I like to take the faultequity of my 3bet.

................ anyway, I am not sure about this hand.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Villain is not playing with 100bb stack, I think we can assume he is recreational. Question is, can he 4bet other than KK+, like AQo,AJs etc.. or would he 4bet shove those weaker hands? I think this is a 5bet shove or fold pre, I don't like calling so much.

As played I would call flop. If villain can 4bet AK,AQ pre, I think this flop bet doesn't change his range. He has only around 2/3 pot bet left and you check so I think it is reasonable for him to shove his entire 4betting range.


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Malendes
Joined: 03.04.2011

Preflop you should decide if you are beating or losing to his 4bet range and then shove or fold.

As played I dont like folding on this flop. You didnt hit a set but the flop should have missed villains range too, so there is no reason to call pre for half his stack and then planning to fold on a flop like this one.


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kriko92
Joined: 16.11.2010

This is very clear stack off preflop. His stack indicates that he is a weaker player and weaker players on nl2 are just fish so he can show up with all sorts of random hands there. His sizing also is huge which makes it less likely he has AA/KK.
As played, snapcall flop for the same reasons. Even against the range you gave him of JJ+ you still have to call because of odds.


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wimNP
Joined: 11.03.2011

Hero has a decision preflop: call the 4-bet or fold. Given V is showing strength against 2 opponents I think a fold is fine.
Calling would be bad: V cannot fold to H's call. :P
Calling means that H has to put in 40% of his stack and has 53bb left of his effective stack. The pot will be 84bb. This means that on the flop H could be going or being put all-in.
So the question preflop is whether Hero wants to go all in with pocket queens on the flop if he doesn't hit the board. If so than Hero is better off going all in preflop. He gives Villain a chance to fold his hand.


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Hesticus
Joined: 24.06.2008

Difficult spot. However, against a shortstack he can play many good hands aggressively. I think I might have shoved pre-flop.


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

Vs shortstack squeeze bigger and push pre.
As played-call.


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YohanN7
Joined: 15.06.2009

You put yourself in an weird situation by calling preflop. You simply cannot fold there if you are serious about calling pre. What did you expect? You are both totally committed. You might fold on an AKx flop, but that just adds to the weirdness of the preflop call.

Fold or shove preflop.


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