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NL20 Speed - KK flop decision

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muel294
Joined: 06.06.2009

Villains are all relative unknowns

PF: Could probably make it like 15bb but thought I might scare people off so made it 1x less. When MP and CO flat the open and call the 3b OOP I think their range is capped at JJ and would be something like: 22+,A2s+,KTs+,QTs+,JTs,T9s,98s,87s,ATo+ for both villains ( essentially something they want to see a flop with but isn't good enough for a raise - from their point of view)

OTF: This is not how the hand went. I can give the details later if anyone wants to know. I just want to see what people think about playing bet/call here.

This may seem like a stupid question and a relatively simple decision but I tend to do stupid stuff in 3b pots and question myself about going broke or not postflop. Personally I think this is a bet/call vs a check shove vs an unknown as I think villain will check shove here with JJ, NFD's, and 44/8x.

Against this "worst case scenario range we have about 50% equity so I guess it should be fine. If villain goes broke any wider then even better.

I would be interested in any other lines and why.

iPoker - €0.20 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4
BB: 39 BB (VPIP: 27.27, PFR: 22.08, 3Bet Preflop: 12.12, Hands: 79)
UTG: 40 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 23.53, Hands: 36)
CO: 122.4 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 120.95 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 15)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K♦ K♠

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 9.5 BB, CO calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (42 BB, 3 players) 8♦ 4♦ 8♥
**not as played, following is hypothetical**
MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets 21 BB, MP Raises All-in 87.5 BB, CO folds, Hero...


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

You could 3bet that 15bb but you can go smaller too. You are in position so this is ok.

OTF I would bet/call this. Villain shouldn't call your 3bet with 44 but it is possible. I don't see many 8x in his calling range, actually there should be none. Villain can do this sometimes with that nut flush draw or 99-QQ. AA he would have 4bet pre. It's pretty clear call imo. If he has 8x or 44 we always have 2 outs :f_pleased:


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I prefer to go even bigger preflop - 16-18BB.
FLop - you have to cbet and as there are overpairs possible - you can call the shove.
Tho, villain has 8x in his range too... he closes the action and has odds to call with a wide range.


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