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Reg "leveling" against AK 4bet

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rvnikauj
Joined: 03.02.2017

PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 120 BB
BB: 105 BB (VPIP: 20.33, PFR: 17.63, 3Bet Preflop: 7.33, Hands: 2,454)
UTG: 62 BB (VPIP: 34.67, PFR: 9.33, 3Bet Preflop: 3.66, Hands: 231)
CO: 37 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 8.16, 3Bet Preflop: 12.90, Hands: 154)
BTN: 103 BB (VPIP: 22.02, PFR: 7.76, 3Bet Preflop: 3.93, Hands: 2,238)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♥ K♦

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, BB raises to 66 BB, fold

Spoiler

BB wins 44 BB

Stats:

I 4betted light VILLAIN at the same table with the same hand and I was 3betting strong in other tables against villains CO & BU ranges, sample:

PokerStars - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 109.5 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 20.33, PFR: 17.56, 3Bet Preflop: 7.33, Hands: 2,396)
SB: 66.5 BB (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 9.31, 3Bet Preflop: 4.05, Hands: 209)
BB: 175 BB (VPIP: 40.28, PFR: 26.59, 3Bet Preflop: 6.25, Hands: 520)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A♦ K♣

Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 10.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 26 BB, fold

Spoiler

Hero wins 22.5 BB

So is an EV+ movement 4bet/fold? I'm always tempted to jam but this villain is a really tight ABC one so I suppose I'm behind agains his 5bet(?) range!


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

4b/fold with AKo is the worse you can do!
This is a stack off hand.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by nitrol
4b/fold with AKo is the worse you can do!
This is a stack off hand.

Agree.


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rvnikauj
Joined: 03.02.2017

Originally posted by nitrol
4b/fold with AKo is the worse you can do!
This is a stack off hand.

Aren't we then calling the tightest part of his range with full stack (we play stacks?) and getting at the best situation 50% equity if we call? Let me calculate:
We call
EV=129,5*P-44BB*(1-P) ; P=25%, AKo vs JJ+, AQ+ is 50%, however we have to win at the flop so we'll have to get a pair which will be around 33% times. Against QQ+, AK we have 18% equity therefore calling is not an option.

We push
For villain would be 44 BB to call into a pot of 200BB
EV=200*P-44*(1-P) ; P=18% equity so hero would need 82-25=47% fold equity to break even.

I'm a mess with the numbers, but want to learn!


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nitrol
Joined: 24.07.2010

I do not get from where you take all those numbers and why do you use just a part of his range.
All I want to add is that if you do not 4b This, you will 4b too small and villain can exploit you as you will be transparent.


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la55i
Joined: 27.01.2013

Originally posted by rvnikauj
We push
For villain would be 44 BB to call into a pot of 200BB
EV=200*P-44*(1-P) ; P=18% equity so hero would need 82-25=47% fold equity to break even.

Where do you get all of these numbers? How would it be 44bb for villain to call if we shove when he has already invested 66?
How did you come up with 18% equity? We have almost 40% equity vs QQ+,AK.
What is that 82-25?
You need 5-6% fold equity to break even if we have 40% equity when we get called.


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