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Bottom set on rainbow flop

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sime79
Joined: 26.10.2014

$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
8886 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($6.73) 67bb
UTG+1 ($16.73) 167bb
CO ($4.92) 49bb
BTN ($31.66) 317bb
SB Hero ($18.33) 183bb
BB ($16.75) 168bb
Pre-Flop: (0.15, 6 players) Hero is SB 4♦: 4♥:

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, BB raises to $1.59, UTG+1 calls $1.29, CO folds, Hero calls $1.29

Flop: 4♠: T♦: 8♣: ($5.07, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 checks
Turn: 7♣: ($5.07, 3)
Hero bets $5.07, BB folds, UTG+1 goes all-in $15.14, Hero calls $10.07
River: 6♠: ($35.35, 2), 1 all-in
Final Pot: $35.35
Hero shows
4♦: 4♥:
UTG+1 shows
J♠: 9♠:
UTG+1 wins $33.59 (net +$16.86)
Hero lost $16.73
BB lost $1.59
CO lost $0.30

Hand from 888poker SNAP format, so no reads(HUD not available). Flopped a set after a 3bet and a call. Planned to check raise on the flop, but it got checked to the turn.

Comments, please.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi sime79,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com forums!!

Disclaimer: I am NOT a coach!;
Even so, I'm not in favour of calling cold pre-flop 3-Bets with low pocket pairs.

Here you're quite deep vs UTG+1 and BB, so implied odds are good enough I suppose.

I'll let others discuss the turn -- I have no idea, and I'd love to hear what the experts think

All the best,
VS


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sime79
Joined: 26.10.2014

Hi Vorpal,

Normally I don't call preflop 3 bets with hands like 44, but I was getting 3 to 1 odds, plus we are deep, so I called. Was expecting the BB to fire on the flop, and I put UTG+1 on something like Axs, and perhaps small to medium pocket pairs, so maybe i should have donk bet the flop. ?(


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by sime79
maybe i should have donk bet the flop. ?(
The big problem with check/raising is when the villain doesn't co-operate and checks back _cry:

I don't know if I really put J9s in an EP raising range, so I wasn't expecting the straight.
When the turn was re-raised though, I did expect a higher set.

Cheers,
VS


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Straight on the turn is indeed not to likely, but i doubt he will shove much weaker hands if you pot bet like this. In most cases I would bet around half pot on the turn and go for a decent value bet on the river as plan. As played you are almost committed, but I doubt he has 2 pair combo's in his range. That he would fold pre-flop, but in the end he should fold J9s as well. Than you have only sets over I think and I would go for a tight fold withut any specific info on him, but it's tough to do with so much invested.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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zetozinho
Joined: 18.06.2017

Preflop is already loose to flat 44 vs EP on the SB, against a squeeze is for sure -EV.
Leading the flop mw looks to face up with this preflop action.
You can't fold any sets OTT. Don't expect UTG to have 88/TT. Don't really know what checks back the flop and shoves the turn vs PSB, which makes some sense when the flop goes check through.
Don't be results oriented.


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