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PLO10 A983ss flopped top two

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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

First hand of table. SB limp and I raise. Flop top two no draw and face this c-r. Should be very rare that villain has better made hand but we are very deep SPR wise. I stacked off here but dont really like it. Sometimes villain could have set, often he has some sort of combo draw or he could be making move. I suppose its not bad to get some weaker stuff to fold and we can be more or less flipping versus some Ad5dxx. Though kind of crushed versus better draws.

But perhaps best line would be to call and evaluate turn? We can snap fold on diamond. Probably stack off some 8, 3, 2, 7, 9, T, J, Q, K? I mean there is obviously danger villain hit some random better two pair on those 9-K though.


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efkay
Joined: 25.03.2005

you already recognized the troubles of running into better 2pairs on turn since your hand is so low card. do you know how many equity you need to stack off on flop at spr20? can you give villain a defined range and have a look at PPT if you can stack off the flop?


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Well equity needed is close to 50 like 48-49% Dont know about that syntax exactly but if I run my hand versus some 22xx, 33xx, 88xx, 83xx, 45dd, Adxxd, 8xdd I would get 37.8%

That range I made there should include 83xx, sets, all flush draws with OESD, all nut flush draws and 8x with flush draw. Probably cant be wider for stack off range. If that range definition works like that anyway. So flop stack off seems too optimistic even if villain occasionally would fold.

I think by calling we could make better overall decision compared to flop stack off though. Even if villain would show up with random top two sometimes. I would think folding flop would be too tight even if spot is not great.

PS: Though yeah including all 22xx and 33xx seems overly pessimistic so lets remove at least 22xx. That would improve equity to 41.7%


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

I would bet-call the flop as there is not much value in re-raising with top-2pair+bdfd. Against his x/r/4bet either you are a marginal favourit against some mediocre combo-hands or you are dominated by stronger combos / dead against set, this is something we want to avoid in general.

I would definitely stack-off an :8x: ott and probably fold unless the turn is a :heart: a :3x: , a rainbow :Ax: or :9x: where I'd call once more.


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