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maniac
Joined: 29.03.2006

hi,

he is a maniac. Really loose and overly aggro. Nevertheless, I think I cant call the river tbh. I just don't want to risk it. There are just to many dras that got there.

iPoker - 100/200 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

BB: 5,664 (28.3 bb)
Hero (SB): 3,336 (16.7 bb)

2 players post ante of 25, Hero posts SB 100, BB posts 200

Pre Flop: (pot: 350) Hero has K♣: J♥:
Hero calls 100, BB checks

Flop: (450, 2 players) K♦: 9♦: 8♠:
BB checks, Hero bets 200, BB calls 200

Turn: (850, 2 players) A♥:
BB checks, Hero bets 400, BB calls 400

River: (1,650, 2 players) 7♦:
BB bets 4,839, Hero folds

Spoiler

Results: 1,650 pot (0 rake)
Final Board: K♦: 9♦: 8♠: A♥: 7♦:

BB wins 1,650


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Is indeed well played. Flush is there and you beat only a bluff I think.
Not sure he would over shove a bluff like this.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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DaMaryJoanna
Joined: 02.07.2006

Hi!

I guess we are trapping PF which seems reasonable against this villain. Otherwise this is a raise.

Generally speaking I like the way you played the hand. I do not think that we can call the river.

Given the flop texture and our loose opponent I would prefer a bigger flop bet. Not huge as we are HU but still at least 50% if not 60% PSB.


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yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

Sorry guys, but this play is just plain disrespectful. You should be ashamed of yourselves...

This villain was being real kind. He didn’t jam preflop. He didn’t jam over your puny flop bet. In a show of true sportsmanship he refrained from donking that horrible turn as a gift to you, but then you went and bet it yourself!

That dude should have punished you straight away with a jam raise but he let you off. He waited till the river to jam. What a guy!!

In the future, if the villain kindly lets you pot control when you have second pair on the most drawee board ever seen, take the gift man!


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

I would bet turn bigger like 600 usually. This hand is super clear value bet and almost never behind at this point. Also any Kx or strong 9x are fine. If you are drawing you want to put pressure on villain capped range and allow around pot size bet for river.

Above comment probably troll as we are thrilled to stack off flop and turn and preflop has to be with idea to call shove.


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yadijavadi
Joined: 31.01.2018

Lol, why do you want to put him under pressure?

You think you can get 9x to call? Fold??? Maybe his draws. Maybe you think his draws will fold? You want them to call so that the pots bigger on the river??? It makes no sense. Maybe you just like pressure? Perhaps you’re one of those guys who’s into big girls?? I respect that.

This is not clear value because, well, we have second pair on a drawee board. When is that ever clear value lol!? If we had 9x it would definitely not be clear value.

In this example the only thing we really take value from is the villains draws. If we take this value on the turn we’re just building a pot for when he hits. He ain’t folding. We bet, he calls with his draw, owns us if he hits and he’ll likely bluff us if he misses. GRRREAT!! All roads lead to a smoking pile of shiite.

Alternatively, we check. We look like we could have absolutely nothing. Then on the river we get a bet from all his draws: If he hits his draw we can often avoid it with a very cheap fold. If he misses we can call for easy value.

Between these two options it’s a no brainer.

If we bet the turn, the best case scenario is that he jams over the top with his draws, but that’s not particularly good for us. He could still have the odd weak Ax which will make this a bad call for us.

If the villain raises us on any street we’re in trouble. The flop is the only street we’d be happy to call but even then it’s still close to BE.


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