Skip to forum
Notifications
Clear all

Calling Ranges

2 Posts
2 Users
0 Reactions
623 Views

If we want to call to a 2x open let's say from BB, what is the percent % we want to call (in other wards Equity) to make our call profitable? Generally from BB we take odds: 1+0.5 from the blinds, plus 1 from antes, plus 2 from initial raiser (2x)=4.5:1. So the percentage (%) we need to call is 1:(4.5+1)=19%. So if we have 20% and above against his range we are set. But if we try to figure this out at Equilab the range that we need to call is about 70% of hands against UTG open ranges. It seems pretty big number.. Maybe the correct number is about 38-40%???


Reply
Quote
1 reply
Super Moderator
VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Roger17
If we want to call to a 2x open let's say from BB, what is the percent % we want to call (in other wards Equity) to make our call profitable? Generally from BB we take odds: 1+0.5 from the blinds, plus 1 from antes, plus 2 from initial raiser (2x)=4.5:1. So the percentage (%) we need to call is 1:(4.5+1)=19%. So if we have 20% and above against his range we are set. But if we try to figure this out at Equilab the range that we need to call is about 70% of hands against UTG open ranges. It seems pretty big number.. Maybe the correct number is about 38-40%???

Hi Roger17,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com! :welcome:
Sorry to start off like this, but as with so many things in Poker -- "It depends"
It depends on:
:diamond:  The position of the min-raiser -- a person min-raising from the button represents a much wider range than a person min-raising from UTG
:diamond:  The prior history of the min-raiser. If he's doing this with 40% of hands, that represents a much wider range than if he's open-raising 13% of hands
:diamond:  Anyone else in the pot? You'll need a tighter range to call.
:diamond:  Your perceived range at the table <== much less important at low stakes
:diamond:  Is this tournament or cash? If tournament, what is the relative stack size between yourself and the open-raiser
:diamond:  If tournament, how close is the bubble?
:diamond:  Let's see how many more "depends" people can come up with.

Since you mentioned Equilab, let's try a hand.
If we assign BU a 75% open-raising range, then use the Hand Range Calculator to give us a range with a minimum equity of 50% we get:

Hand range with equity greater than 50.00 %:

33+
A2s+, K3s+, Q7s+, J9s+
A2o+, K6o+, Q9o+, JTo

When you take that to the main window, and evaluate it, you get:

       Equity     Win     Tie
BU     41.97%  40.38%   1.59% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 83s+, 73s+, 63s+, 52s+, 43s, A2o+, K2o+, Q2o+, J4o+, T6o+, 96o+, 85o+, 75o+, 65o }
BB     58.03%  56.44%   1.59% { 33+, A2s+, K3s+, Q7s+, J9s+, A2o+, K6o+, Q9o+, JTo }

but that all assumes that the two hands go to showdown.
There is a lot that can be done post flop to justify calling a minraise with somewhat less than 50% absolute equity.

Cheers,
VS


Reply
Quote