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NAoise
Joined: 08.06.2020

UTG: 100 BB
MP: 300 BB
CO: 209.5 BB
Hero (BTN): 100 BB
SB: 131 BB
BB: 144.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q♠ Q♥

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) J♦ 3♣ 8♠
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero ???


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Any history on this guy?

I would find it very difficult to fold this -- at least OTF
His range is very wide, but the big guns -- JJ+ AJ+ would have (or should have) 3Bet pre.
That leaves 3 combos of 88 and 3 combos of 33 that knock you out of the park.

I would at the very least see a turn [1]

[1] In actual fact, I would re-raise this flop, but I tend to do stuff like that. I'm told it's spewy :coolface:

Cheers,
VS


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Villain 3bet doesn't make so much sense. The board is quite dry. If they had a set they would probably just call.
I would probably call and give up if villain continues aggresively.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
[1] In actual fact, I would re-raise this flop, but I tend to do stuff like that. I'm told it's spewy :coolface:
VS

Reminds me of Yeti Theorem. But that seems a bit outdated in todays games.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don't see any 3bet post-flop :f_wink:
Anyway I would most likely call and her-evaluete the turn. Tough to give a random villain credit for ony a set.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by SDK1987
I don't see any 3bet post-flop :f_wink:
SDK1987

I meant 2-bet obviously πŸ˜…


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by monteCarlol
Reminds me of Yeti Theorem. But that seems a bit outdated in todays games.

I had to look that up.
To save others the trouble:

β€œA 3-bet on a dry flop (preferably paired) is almost always a bluff.”

I do it a lot at NL 5 but I've no idea whether it is long-term successful because of sample size.


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nutural
Joined: 21.09.2011

for this bet sizing for this pot size i find it super hard to fold. If you fold this by default then it's almost seems scared money.
If by any chance we know that he is not a complete maniac, then we become more conservative for turn and river.
But i think on NL2 there is a sea of people doing it with complete air, or overplaying top pairs, even with loosy kickers, gutshots etc.


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