2nd pair -- possible flush OTT

Against some villains a 3bet isn't to bad ether, but calling is just fine against most villains.
As played I would most likely bluff bet the turn to get villain of the hand. Sizing of around half pot seems big enough.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Before I posted this, I consulted some old pre-flop charts I had saved in Equilab.
In the category "MP vs UTG raise" the 3Bet/Fold range is AJs,T9s,98s,87s,AQo -- so AJo doesn't even enter into it, which is why I asked.

In GGPoker, essentially all the opponents are unknown, since all you have is VPIP, and nearly always < 100 hands

I'd 3b bluff this pre. We have position. Blockers.

As played.
Half pot turn for protection. 🥳

Originally posted by DecMate
I'd 3b bluff this pre. We have position. Blockers.

As played.
Half pot turn for protection. 🥳

I did exactly that and got a fold.

that's two people that have suggested a 3Bet pre.
Like I say, it seems rather loose...

charts suggest 3bet or fold pre and AQ is 3bet or call pre i don't think 100% fold is a huge mistake pre vs 3x though.If your interested Zenith poker have some very good free range charts just make a free account to view them.
https://www.zenithpoker.com/preflop/

We can 3bet but we need to know also that was is the stat for villain 'fold to 3bet' and 'fold to cbet flop'. If he calls anyways our 3bet prelop, and the CB otf, we are wasting money doing the 3bet because you cannot push him away. However if you 3bet, that might let you to check back otf and catch a free card in case the villain does not donk. so in terms of money lost/gain, it is equal. Here otf you have 2nd pair and it is obviously a call otf based on the sizing. ott however if facing aggression, I would maybe fold but in your case 1/2 is enough facing this villain with 46 vpip. However if you are facing a thinking player I think you would need to size up a little bit because most thinking players understand this bet sizings.

About the charts, I guess they are designed to fit in general situations. against fishes, I may play a lot of hands to be able to catch more and exploit his mistakes.

Originally posted by LeMahdi
We can 3bet but we need to know also that was is the stat for villain 'fold to 3bet' and 'fold to cbet flop'.

Such stats are never available on GGPoker

versus the villain you profiled this is pretty much ok pre.
OTF I'd go for 35-45 cents and fold to pushback.
If called, we have a IP decision to define the size of the pot meaning we could bet small or check back and go to showdown cheaply.

the point of contention here is the thought process. are you bluffing, not giving a cheap river, or what?

if you're betting 1/2 pot on the turn "to rep the flush" (that is, bluffing), that seems completely wrong, go big and polarize more, and follow through on the river.
however, why bluff? you don't have a club in your hand, and you have the best hand pretty often, and betting half pot won't fold out any better pairs yet... you can get called by worse sometimes, though. might go even smaller for a mix of value-betting/making villain fold some loose equity (including not getting bluffed on bad rivers).

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
First off, is this a sensible call pre-flop?
At this point villain is showing 46VPIP, I'm at about 12 IIRC (GGPoker, so no meaningful sample)

GG Poker - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $18.17
MP: $6.84
CO: $1.09
Hero (BTN): $4.80
SB: $5.09
BB: $5.07

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A♠:J♥:

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 6♦:Q♣:J♣:
UTG bets $0.21, Hero calls $0.21

Turn: ($0.79, 2 players) 8♣:
UTG checks, Hero ???

I would likely fold this pre to a known tight UTG, but I figured this was worth a go.
I call the flop with 2nd pair.
OTT when he checks, I think I should bet to if I can rep the flush successfully -- it that sound play?
I pretty much have to fold if he comes over the top though I think...

With that in mind, what bet size?

the first critical point is preflop > your hand is too weak to call vs a UTG open range -> it's a borderline decision between folding or bluff-raising.
the second critical point is on the Flop > we can call or sometimes raise vs a thinking player but the standard play with 2nP is too call.
the third critical point is on the Turn > we have SD value hand and we x >> but we can bet with an insanely high frequency because in micro limit(NL2-NL10) it's an exploitative move base on the fact that regular players don't have well-balanced checking ranges.

Thanks all.
I bet the turn about 2/3 and got a fold.

you should turn straight draws and overcards into bluffs by default. If there are not enough of such hands, then you start turning the bottom pairs and small pocket pairs into bluffs. AJ is pretty high up in your range so probably not a good idea to bet this unless you just think that he folds way too much and you wanna fire the Turn and River with your entire range (not a good idea vs most players)