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kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

I don`t think calling the turn and folding the river is good idea, but I didn`t want to fold the turn either. The villain is fish, he e is 61/17 preflop and I am not sure he knows what he does but I don`t believe he will bet 2 pairs or worse here or bluff on this board. Ideas?

iPoker - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

Hero (UTG): €55.19 (110.4 bb)
CO: €65.40 (130.8 bb)
BTN: €16.62 (33.2 bb)
SB: €99.06 (198.1 bb)
BB: €53.94 (107.9 bb)

SB posts €0.25, BB posts €0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has 8♣: 8♥:
Hero raises to €1.50, 2 folds, SB raises to €6.00, fold, Hero calls €4.50

Flop: (€12.50, 2 players) 8♠: J♠: T♣:
SB bets €6.25, Hero calls €6.25

Turn: (€25.00, 2 players) 7♠:
SB bets €13.00, Hero calls €13.00

River: (€51.00, 2 players) 3♦:
SB bets €30.00, Hero folds

Results: €51.00 pot (€2.55 rake)
Final Board: 8♠: J♠: T♣: 7♠: 3♦:

SB wins €48.45


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Do you have his postflop aggression stats here?
Even if he is totally aggro, this is a terrible runout for your hand.

I think the turn call is fine -- you have decent equity, but you're right -- two pairs and overpairs aren't going to bet big here, so the river fold is required


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kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

I have it but nothing special. He e is not maniac , he e is just stupid fish 😄


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

that's rough. some thoughts:
- raise flop?
- do we beat any of villain's value bets on the river?
- what are villain's value combos?

i don't want to fold, but when you call and get shown 9x you do feel dumb villain's value range looks mostly like high spades, though?


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kfcsekirata
Joined: 01.11.2013

Originally posted by Tomaloc
that's rough. some thoughts:
- raise flop?
- do we beat any of villain's value bets on the river?
- what are villain's value combos?

i don't want to fold, but when you call and get shown 9x you do feel dumb villain's value range looks mostly like high spades, though?

It should be flushes and straights , but what 9s he'll play this way?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

Originally posted by kfcsekirata
It should be flushes and straights , but what 9s he'll play this way?

indeed, i wonder how many 9x he's raising preflop to begin with. that's why i believe it's mostly high spades...

so yes, i'm feeling a call. i'm expecting mostly flushes, bluffs, AA overplay (in that order) which should give us enough odds on the curiosity call.


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mbml
Joined: 27.11.2008

Raise the Flop for sure. Many players will just go broke with KQ or overpairs.

I may not fold the River. Does he have 9X in his range preflop? SB 3bet vs MP. Not too many combos. Also depends whether he's barreling AsK AsQ and KsQ QsK for 3 streets or not.

As played, turn is a clear call, you are ahead of so many hands plus you have the redraw


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