Looking for GTO freaks to share the rent of a server. (MASSIVE solving)

Originally posted by gandillo
Hi,

I am part of a group of GTO freaks playing mainly small-stakes NLHE (online).
We have already solved all the 1755 flops in 4bet and 3bet pots.
The next step is to solve BTN vs BB single-raised-pot and afterwards, we are basically going to solve every solvable spot.
We are about to begin this massive project which requires us to rent a server with an extremely powerful CPU and a huge amount of ram (~ 150GB).
Of course, we will need to buy a license key for the solver and the rent of a server, so we are now looking for players to share the costs with.
We are not looking for many players, we prefer to work with a small group of serious and reliable people.
If you are interested in this project send me a private message..

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Hi gandillo,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com!
My first reaction was to just delete the post, since our forum principles generally don't react well to requests for money. However the project sounds like it may have value, so I've left it in.

Admins may have other ideas though...

I'm curious though at the number of flops analyzed.
Why 1755?
Since you hold two cards, there are 50 unknowns there are 19,600 possible 3-card flops in Hold'em
What am I missing?

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Hi VorpalF2F,

I'm sure you won't regret leaving this thread open. We are not begging for money, this is looking for team members rather than customers.

The answer to your question is rather straightforward: most of the flops are played in the exact same way so it would be pointless to solve them all.
Take for instance Qc 8c 2c and Qd 8d 2d. You should play them in the exact same way.
In Hold'em there are 22100 different flops but they can be grouped in 1755 strategically different ones.
By solving 1755 you are basically solving the whole game.

This is extremely powerful for studying, it's perfect to find patterns in how different flops are played. It's perfect to do any statistical analysis which will give us a much better and much deeper understanding of the game.
In general, any kind of study on solvers is aimed to find some kind of patterns, and the wider is your sample of subsets (flops) the more accurate will be your conclusions ad what's more important by solving all the flops you basically never come to wrong conclusions (unless you are blind or very dumb xD).
This many flops could also somehow be used to get real time assists, but that's very easier said than done and other than unpractical that's unethical and also forbidden on every major network.

If you got more questions don't hesitate to ask

Interesting project! Added you.

Do you really need 150GB ram for this though?

I don't know about Holdem, but for PLO 150Gb doesn't get you anywhere Lucky Holdem players.

Was curious and checked how much solver needs in Holdem HU postflop. Even with 5 sizings it was was under 100Gb. No idea though how much other solvers use.

If you have already solved 3bet and 4bet pots, that would indicate that you have access to solver. Why are you still looking to get solver and rent server?

I have pretty good computer with 256Gb RAM free to run sims about 16h a day, and I have Monker. No idea if that is good or bad solver for Holdem, as I am PLO player. But if you need affordable way to run sims with Monker, feel free to contact me. Skype nick is Kyyberi.

no thanks

Solves are going well and we are now about to approach another spot, MPvsBB SRP.
It would be nice to have more people on board

hey, can people still join?

"Please include me! My focus lies in optimizing efficiency and expanding the realm of game theory optimization. Together, let's make the most of our shared server's capabilities. Are you prepared to explore the realm of huge solving in depth?"

yeah like it seems like it is mostly live poker discussion board, but you might find some machine/online guys as well gl!