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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Do you call again on the turn?
Would villain (29/10 - 60 hands) double barrel with AQ+?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 104.5 BB
BB: 101 BB
Hero (CO): 106.5 BB
BTN: 93 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J♣ J♠

Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 9 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 6 BB

Flop: (19.5 BB, 2 players) 8♦ 8♣ 5♠
Hero checks, BTN bets 11 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (41.5 BB, 2 players) 4♣
Hero checks, BTN bets 25 BB, fold,


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

you should look at your range own and the minimum defense frequency. then you will come to the right conclusions pretty quickly.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by Pokamon
you should look at your range own and the minimum defense frequency. then you will come to the right conclusions pretty quickly.

Pref: JJ-66, AQs-ATs, KQs-KTs, QJs-QTs, JTs, T9s, 98s
Flop: JJ-66, 98s

MDF = 25/(25+41.5) = 37.6%

combos: JJ-99,77-66=5*6 = 30
        88              =  1
        98s             =  2
        total           = 33 combos

37.6% of 33 combos is roughly 12

=> defend with 88,98s,JJ-TT

Does that look correct?

Also, against:

TT+, AK, A8s, AcQc, AcKc, Ac7c, Ac7c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ac2c, KcQc, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c,K8s, QcTc, Qc9c, Q8s

I have at 45% equity, which is enough to call.

I see now that I should call unless my opponent is super nitty, or never 2 barrels, or something, but with a sample of 60 hands there is no way to tell.

Thanks!


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

When I think about it, I am not sure if villains on NL2 and especially this one (22/10) would semi-bluff 2 barrel in a 3bettet pot.
It might be that villain has a much tighter range on the turn than I assumed above. Maybe only TT+, AK. But also against this range I have enough equity to call.


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guilhermevg85
Joined: 01.01.2013

Originally posted by Pokamon
you should look at your range own and the minimum defense frequency. then you will come to the right conclusions pretty quickly.

If you know opponent range OTT is AA and KK, and you have always QQ, JJ do you bother defending MDF? What the solver would do?


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Incog
Joined: 18.08.2006

OTT: it's a call for me! But there are way better spots on NL2 so u might want to fold that one.

If he keeps betting the River he has it!


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

Originally posted by monteCarlol
It might be that villain has a much tighter range on the turn than I assumed above. Maybe only TT+, AK. But also against this range I have enough equity to call.

thats the point. JJ is the best have you will ever have in that spot, so you have to call down.

its interesting to look at the weaker holdings though and to learn, where you have to start folding.


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Zaratras
Joined: 03.01.2009

Originally posted by Pokamon

Originally posted by monteCarlol
It might be that villain has a much tighter range on the turn than I assumed above. Maybe only TT+, AK. But also against this range I have enough equity to call.

thats the point. JJ is the best have you will ever have in that spot, so you have to call down.

its interesting to look at the weaker holdings though and to learn, where you have to start folding.

Interesting analysis. What solver do you use?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011

Originally posted by guilhermevg85

Originally posted by Pokamon
you should look at your range own and the minimum defense frequency. then you will come to the right conclusions pretty quickly.

If you know opponent range OTT is AA and KK, and you have always QQ, JJ do you bother defending MDF? What the solver would do?

fold 100%


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Pokamon
Joined: 15.04.2006

Originally posted by deuverman
Interesting analysis. What solver do you use?

i havent solved this particular hand. solving (and working w the output) helps you to ask the right questions and give simplified answers on the fly.

any program will do the trick.


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I would likewise crush greater . Something like 15-16 bb .

Flop Bet for 1/3 with your whole Range is alright . Turn Check on An is Standard since you don't polarize enough to wager and you don't need to wager little .

Stream I don't comprehend the 1 bb Bet. I would check and expectation he checks behind and we win versus TT,JJ

Inquiries I would pose to myself when being raised on the River :

Does the commonplace Regular (which I expect he is) raise enough as a Bluff here ?

On the off chance that no do I overwhelm some Value of his Value Range ?

I would address the two Questions with No for NL2 so I think crease is ideal.


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monteCarlol
Joined: 24.08.2019

Originally posted by princessfuzzies
I would likewise crush greater . Something like 15-16 bb .

Flop Bet for 1/3 with your whole Range is alright . Turn Check on An is Standard since you don't polarize enough to wager and you don't need to wager little .

Stream I don't comprehend the 1 bb Bet. I would check and expectation he checks behind and we win versus TT,JJ

Inquiries I would pose to myself when being raised on the River :

Does the commonplace Regular (which I expect he is) raise enough as a Bluff here ?

On the off chance that no do I overwhelm some Value of his Value Range ?

I would address the two Questions with No for NL2 so I think crease is ideal.

love it 😍


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