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Bankroll Challenge: $60 to hopefully more than $60 :)

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finnblair
Joined: 18.08.2013

Hi everyone. This is my first post on this forum and wanted to introduce myself. My name is Finn and I live in the UK. I have been playing online poker on and off (recreationally) over the last 8 years or so. I've had a few micro stakes S&G and tournament successes, turning $1 into over $1,000 in a relatively short period of time, cashing it out and building it back up again. I never really progressed out of the micros due to the cashing out phases.

I always struggled with cash games, I guess my game was never strong enough to negotiate my way through 3-streets of action 100bb deep. Back in 2016 I was inspired by xflixx's bankroll challenge and had a go myself. 2NL and 5NL were ok but tilted my bankroll off at 10NL. This experience really highlighted that my greatest weakness as a poker player was my mind-set. I'm a very results oriented person, as soon as my bb/100 started to fall I would rage quit the challenge and start again or just tilt my roll off.

I've started playing the micros again over at Pokerstars for the last few days for a quick warmup. I have to say that the average opponent seems much stronger than back in 2016. I don't know if this is the actual case or whether my skill level has fallen over the last 5 years haha.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I wanted to create this thread to document my journey, I don't expect this to be a heavy win rate challenge at all, but I think making my progress public will motivate me to play objectively and to not let my emotions get the better of me. It will also eliminate that desire to restart my Holdem database just because of a bad session.

I'm going to start with $60 over at the 2NL Zoom tables and will play 2-3 tables at a time. My bankroll strategy is to have 30 buy-ins and move up once I have 4 shots at the next level. For example, start playing 5NL at $80, move down at $60, start playing 10NL at $190 (30x$5 + 4x$10), move down at $150 etc. I'm hoping that this bankroll strategy will allow me to move up relatively quickly whilst having the discipline to move down after only 4 shots. I appreciate the shot taking could be damaging for my bankroll, particularly at 5NL as a failed shot will set me back to square one. But I'm happy to take this risk to get out of 2NL!

I will try and post my progress regularly with some graphs and maybe some thoughts on some interesting hands. Once I get going with the challenge it would be great to get some discussions going on here about my play. I certainly have many leaks and any advice would be hugely appreciated.

Thank you for taking the time to read this post and I will hopefully have a graph or two to show in the next couple of days. Good luck at the tables :)

Finn


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Hi finnblair,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com forums :welcome:

We'll look forward to following your progress...

Cheers,
VS


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arthurbentley
Joined: 12.10.2010

Good luck with your new challenge. 30 buy-ins should be okay for 2nl. But I recommend full ring regular tables if you enjoy playing against lots of fish.

Zoom has probably got harder due to all the former 24-tabling regs now plying their trade there in order to maintain their hourly win rate they enjoyed on regular tables.


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finnblair
Joined: 18.08.2013

Thank you for the best wishes and the advice. I hear of a lot of players saying this too with regards to avoiding Zoom. In your opinion, is Zoom a bad choice due to high variance? Or are regular tables optimal as you can choose who to play with? I'm going to start my challenge in the next hour or so and will probably incorporate a mixture of Zoom and regular tables. If my success at the Zoom tables isn't there then I will certainly play the regular tables.


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finnblair
Joined: 18.08.2013

Thank you for the warm welcome. I will be getting my challenge under way very soon. Fingers crossed for a good first session and I will update on how that session goes.


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Zaratras
Joined: 03.01.2009

Hello Finnblair,

Welcome to this wonderful forum!
Good luck with your new challenge, I hope you get NL2 very soon and grind NL5.
For me I am almost there :f_drink:


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finnblair
Joined: 18.08.2013

Well what a start to my challenge. 1,016 hands played and down $10.76. It's quite hillarious how so much can happen in only 1,000 hands. I had aces cracked three times by sets (luckily opponents were only half stacked), full house lost to quads, JJ lost to Q8 pre-flop shove, QQ cracked by a set, big combo draws not getting there either. These were only the real playable hands and managed to lose them all. My biggest winning pot was at the end of the session for a whopping $0.69 haha with trip aces (outkicked my opponent).

Normally I would be like oh well we'll pretend that didn't happen and we'll start again. But as promised, I will share all the ups and downs and won't restart at any point.

As I am new to here, would someone be able to advise me on how to load a graph over from Holdem please?

The main thing that I have gleamed from those mere 1,000 hands is that 2NL players don't like to give up their BB no matter what. They'll float the flop and turn at the very least. Also, a 3-bet is very rarely AK/AQ I always seemed to run into AA/KK/QQ. It's difficult calling a 3-bet with smallish/medium pairs as I was fading an A,K,Q,J but was always behind to the over pair.

Despite not having a great start I remain optimistic about getting out of 2NL relatively quickly. Just praying for a smoother period of hands :)


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finnblair
Joined: 18.08.2013

A quick update on my challenge. We obviously had a bad start to the challenge haha. I managed to grind that loss back and then down-swinged a little more, ended up playing some tournaments and lost some more!! I put the challenge to one side and played a mixture of zoom and tournaments without really tracking my progress. Had an awful time at the Zoom tables!

I have decided to take the advice of playing the full ring tables instead. I started with $50 two days ago and got to work at these tables. It has been going very well so far. 3,598 hands played and have won $39.84 at 55 bb/100. These tables are insanely soft and the stable variance is great for my mindset. I think I will play some Zoom still to get that volume in (2,440 hands, won $4.55 (3.5 BIs below EV)) but only once I have decent profits at the regular tables in order to take the edge off the variance.

Once I hit a $100 bankroll I will move over to 5NL full ring, where I hope the tables will be just as soft. If anyone could advise on how to load a graph in from Holdem then that would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

All the best at the tables.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by finnblair
Once I hit a $100 bankroll I will move over to 5NL full ring, where I hope the tables will be just as soft. If anyone could advise on how to load a graph in from Holdem then that would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

Well they won't be, but it will be close.
For your first few trips into 5NL Land, I suggest that you play tighter, and observe other players closely.
Play only two (or even one) to give yourself time to take notes.
Up to NL 25 the style of play is similar, but there are differences.

Best of luck :gl:,
VS


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