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some spot: JJ on button vs BB cold 4bet. What's our shoving range 170bb deep?

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snowdust
Joined: 14.03.2021

AA-KK, AKs yes
AKo?
QQ?
JJ? fold

Hero (BTN): $42.69 (170.8 bb)
SB: $59.02 (236.1 bb)
BB: $25.55 (102.2 bb)
UTG: $25.00 (100 bb)
MP: $39.79 (159.2 bb)
CO: $25.00 (100 bb)

SB posts $0.10, BB posts $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has J♦: J♠:
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, SB raises to $3.00, BB raises to $6.90, Hero raises to $42.00, fold, BB calls $18.65

Flop: ($54.10, 2 players) 9♦: A♠: 9♠:

Turn: ($54.10, 2 players) Q♠:

River: ($54.10, 2 players) 7♠:

Players agreed to run it twice.

Flop #2: ($54.10, 2 players) 8♣: 2♦: 2♠:

Turn #2: ($54.10, 2 players) T♣:

River #2: ($54.10, 2 players) A♣:

Results: $54.10 pot ($0.00 rake)
Final Board: 9♦: A♠: 9♠: Q♠: 7♠: 8♣: 2♦: 2♠: T♣: A♣:

Hero shows J♦: J♠:: (Flush, Ace High)
Board #1 : (Pre 18%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)
(Two Pair, Jacks and Twos)
Board #2 : (Pre 20%, Flop 9%, Turn 5%)

BB shows K♣: K♠:: (Flush, Ace High)
Board #1 : (Pre 82%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)
(Two Pair, Kings and Twos)
Board #2 : (Pre 80%, Flop 91%, Turn 95%)

Hero wins $0.00
BB wins $25.70


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Zaratras
Joined: 03.01.2009

I prefer calling BB min 4bet. He is OOP representing in my eyes something strong here. Do you have any stats on the opponent?


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Any info on both villains would be nice, but if both villains are aggro I wouldn't mind the shove. Calling a 4bet is tricky as well. You aren't closing the action and only calling for set value isn't a option based on the call 20 rule. Off course you can play in position, but unimproved you need to give up if villain would Cbet 1 or more streets.

Cheers,
SDK198


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tonistu
Joined: 03.04.2016

For me it depends on the BB, if he is always tight and never 4-bet I would raise just with AA-KK-AK


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SamoB25
Joined: 02.10.2009

Originally posted by tonistu
For me it depends on the BB, if he is always tight and never 4-bet I would raise just with AA-KK-AK

Even if he is not that tight, I would fold in this scenario


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snowdust
Joined: 14.03.2021

Don't have more stats on villain.
What's the call 20 rule?

Yeah I like the fold too. QQ shove would be dependent on player in the blinds.
AKo always a shove?

His 4bet size is very small indeed. If I as BTN folds, what hands you have to call being the small blind?


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Zaratras
Joined: 03.01.2009

Originally posted by snowdust
Don't have more stats on villain.
What's the call 20 rule?

Yeah I like the fold too. QQ shove would be dependent on player in the blinds.
AKo always a shove?

His 4bet size is very small indeed. If I as BTN folds, what hands you have to call being the small blind?

Call 20 means ... Call when the opponent has atleast 20x the raise in bb. (A raise of 6bb means that opponent needs 120bb for you to call profitable)


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