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QQ All-in pre-flop Was this a mistake?

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

On review, I realized that if I had just called the 4Bet pre, I might have been able to take it down on the flop.
However, if it got to the river, would I have been able to fold when the K landed?
Later, in another QQ hand, I tried the post-flop route and still lost, so I'm left wondering:
--Get it in pre with QQ or not?

iPoker - €0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: €2.06
BTN: €4.76
Hero (SB): €2.46
BB: €2.50
UTG: €1.86
MP: €0.93

Hero posts SB €0.01, BB posts BB €0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.03) Hero has Q♥:Q♠:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to €0.05, Hero raises to €0.14, fold, BTN raises to €0.45, Hero raises to €1.02, BTN raises to €4.51, Hero calls €1.44

Flop: (€4.94, 2 players) J♠:2♥:7♥:

Turn: (€4.94, 2 players) T♠:

River: (€4.94, 2 players) K♣:

BTN shows K♠:A♥: (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 44%, Flop 28%, Turn 18%)
Hero mucks Q♥:Q♠: (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 56%, Flop 72%, Turn 82%)
BTN wins €4.62
Rake paid €0.32


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EmiyaKiritsugu
Joined: 13.08.2013

On review, I realized that if I had just called the 4Bet pre, I might have been able to take it down on the flop.

Sure why not, you could always call low pockets to 3bet only if you hit set, right?
Stacking there is better - he should have some 4bet folds and you are OOP so by shoving you deny a lot of equity.

What you should work on ASAP are your sizings.

Hero raises to €0.14,

You are out of position, you should raise to at least 0.2€

Hero raises to €1.02,

This is terrible. Rule is simple - if your raise is more than 30% of your stack then you should just shove. Why? Its simple - because you have too good odds when opponent shoves to consider folding.


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KoningAlbert
Joined: 09.06.2009

Originally posted by EmiyaKiritsugu
This is terrible. Rule is simple - if your raise is more than 30% of your stack then you should just shove. Why? Its simple - because you have too good odds when opponent shoves to consider folding.

This is good advice.

I don't know if I would just 4bet call OOP. If you raise the flop bigger, the 3bet will probably be bigger and your almost committed to the pot. Besides that it might be a blind battle, so I usually consider these things as coolers when I run into better hands.


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