AA in checking range

How can we fold Aces?
I would never -- ever -- fail to CBet this flop.
Having done so though, I would check/raise
I think that you need to establish your dominance and make people pay to continue -- and hopefully fold out one of the hands.
(I'm curious to know if that is wrong thinking)

pocket deuces are unlikely holdings, and 2x is also rare.

The expression is "Aces win small pots and lose big ones"
This is how they lose big ones -- buy giving opponents cheap opportunities to outdraw them.

If opponent has a T, he likely would not have folded the flop, so no matter.
But when you show weakness on 3 streets, you give him the perfect opportunity to bluff when the board pairs. But that leaves you bluff-catching with AA

Just give it up, because not always playing it too slow hands like Aces is right, you must raised on the flop or atleast on the turn.

Originally posted by VorpalF2F
I would never -- ever -- fail to CBet this flop.

+1

You also want to cbet on flop for protection - to make potential flush draws expensive to play. I would even bet pot or close to pot size here..

Agree with everyone here. You were pre-flop aggressor, so a c-bet makes sense. The 2 is unlikely to hit opponents ranges (assuming they are playing reasonable ranges), but the T♦: or the flush draw may have, so you want to extract value. I'd probably make about a 3/4 pot size bet on this flop. This also allows you to continue c-betting the turn to set up the all-in on the river.

As played, when BTN 3-bets the turn, I'm making my decision right there to either check-raise all-in or give up on the hand... calling is too weak. Sure your opponent may have a set or trips (or T7 though unlikely), but you have so many other likely hands dominated (:Tx: hands, 98 hands, flush draws, etc...) that will pay you off.

To answer your question though... Things to consider on the river:
:spade:Is BTN capable of bluffing a missed flush draw? If yes, I'm calling.
:spade:Both you and CO have shown weakness throughout the hand, and both checked the river to him so it is unlikely either of you have a Full House, is he choosing a good spot to shove and grab the pot from someone with weaker holdings (pocket pair)?
:spade:BTN has represented a hand from the flop onwards, maybe he has an over-pair or maybe he made the FH?

It is a very bad spot to be in, and (if my rough math is ok) he needs to be bluffing more than 2/3 the time here for you to call... I think I'd be folding this hand as played, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

Originally posted by Ramble
Agree with everyone here. You were pre-flop aggressor, so a c-bet makes sense. The 2 is unlikely to hit opponents ranges (assuming they are playing reasonable ranges), but the T♦: or the flush draw may have, so you want to extract value. I'd probably make about a 3/4 pot size bet on this flop. This also allows you to continue c-betting the turn to set up the all-in on the river.

As played, when BTN 3-bets the turn, I'm making my decision right there to either check-raise all-in or give up on the hand... calling is too weak. Sure your opponent may have a set or trips (or T7 though unlikely), but you have so many other likely hands dominated (:Tx: hands, 98 hands, flush draws, etc...) that will pay you off.

To answer your question though... Things to consider on the river:
:spade:Is BTN capable of bluffing a missed flush draw? If yes, I'm calling.
:spade:Both you and CO have shown weakness throughout the hand, and both checked the river to him so it is unlikely either of you have a Full House, is he choosing a good spot to shove and grab the pot from someone with weaker holdings (pocket pair)?
:spade:BTN has represented a hand from the flop onwards, maybe he has an over-pair or maybe he made the FH?

It is a very bad spot to be in, and (if my rough math is ok) he needs to be bluffing more than 2/3 the time here for you to call... I think I'd be folding this hand as played, but I wouldn't be happy about it.

Thank you for the in depth analysis. My idea of checking came from strengthening our checking range because , would we C-bet AK or AQ here multiway OOP? If we would not my thought was that our checking range would be weak because we have a bunch of missed suited broadways etc.

Maybe C/R flop is also an option not sure.

On the flop in hindsight I do agree villain shouldnt have many 2’s. Maybe hes betting Tx,flushdraws, weaker PP’s, A-highs etc.

When we call and turn comes a 7 in hindsight I am thinking villain’s re-raise could be a with a hand like 77, TT,, AT,KT,QT, maybe some NFD’s
98dd and A2s. On river I decided to fold

Originally posted by Casey55

Originally posted by Ramble
Agree with everyone here...

Thank you for the in depth analysis. My idea of checking came from strengthening our checking range because , would we C-bet AK or AQ here multiway OOP? If we would not my thought was that our checking range would be weak because we have a bunch of missed suited broadways etc.

Maybe C/R flop is also an option not sure.

On the flop in hindsight I do agree villain shouldnt have many 2’s. Maybe hes betting Tx,flushdraws, weaker PP’s, A-highs etc.

When we call and turn comes a 7 in hindsight I am thinking villain’s re-raise could be a with a hand like 77, TT,, AT,KT,QT, maybe some NFD’s
98dd and A2s. On river I decided to fold

No problem - thanks for posting the hand.

You showed strength pre-flop by opening, if you feel you still have a strong hand on the flop that will carry you to the river, then c-bet and build that pot, but if you feel that you don't, then check/call (or check-fold).

Don't worry about protecting a checking range. I guess if you want to protect a checking range, it would be better to check-raise... that would make it harder for people to know if you are checking because you are weak or strong. This is similar to protecting your 3-bet range by 3-betting both the top and bottom of your range (continuing with the top and folding the bottom if re-raised).

Why do you keep playing with less than 100bb?

I understand the principle to balance out your checks, so they aren't always a weak sign. It's part of GTO play, but you should never check with over pair on draw heavy boards. You are letting flush draws get to river for a very cheap price. I would of bet 2/3-3/4 on flop and shove turn to extract value from draws/weaker over pairs (unlikely cause of no 3bet pre) and Tx hands. As played, I would fold the river, as villain is very likely to have a FH and you only beat their bluffs with AA at this point.