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Is shoving flop ever a thing here?

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Casey55
Joined: 19.07.2010

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.01/$0.02 - 6 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $1.11 (56 bb)
MP (Hero): $2.00 (100 bb)
CO: $1.88 (94 bb)
BU: $1.96 (98 bb)
SB: $1.98 (99 bb)
BB: $1.00 (50 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with 3 A
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.08, BTN 3-bets to $0.16, 3 players fold, Hero calls $0.08, CO calls $0.08

Flop: ($0.53) 7 9 6 (3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, BTN bets $0.52, Hero raises to $1.84 (all-in)


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

You'll get value from any sets, any straights and a good many overpairs -- providing you hit.
The downside is that you get folds from hands that might call.

If you don't hit you look like a shove-monkey, which can work in your favour in the long run.

I'm curious to read what the good players think though...


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

After the pot size Cbet on villain i doubt you have much fold equity.
That makes this a spot that you need to hit to win. if you just call you need to give up the turn unimproved and that's not great ether. It's not a ideal spot, but tough to play it differently what you did.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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mjez1
Joined: 29.06.2015

Definitely an interesting spot to me.
Tough spot on the flop, really.
I would say calling is not an option here. Probably, I would play this hand the same. But it seems like gambling.

His min3bet pref is kind of weird. He can have a pretty wide range on NL2. But he could try to induce bigger raise with KK+, too.
:pcuser:


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Sunrise1912
Joined: 24.11.2009

Against TT/KK you are flipping so this cant be that bad of a play.

I would still fold preflop though. Dominated hand that you should play OOP. No matter the price, the preflop call is breakeven at best. if you had position - this would have been different.

having in mind there is a 3rd player who can call on the flop - i would flat the flop as 3way there are more money in the pot, therefore, better odds for you to draw. its more than obvious you dont have any fold equity.


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nsavov
Joined: 24.09.2010

Edited... Just saw it's 3-way. Definitely call to invite CO when we are drawing to the nuts...


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