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OESD on flop — but I folded anyway.

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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Too Nitty?

Theoretically I suppose I could call
Assuming tightish ranges, I have 29% equity — is that enough for a call?

Board: Q♦T♦5♠
       Equity     Win     Tie
BU     28.74%  26.41%   2.33% { KcJs }
SB     33.65%  31.81%   1.84% { 66+, A9s+, A5s-A2s, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, 98s, 87s, 75s+, 65s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+ }
BB     37.61%  35.50%   2.11% { 55+, A9s+, A5s-A2s, KTs+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+ }

If the flop was rainbow, or if we were heads up, I would consider it.
How about you?...

Pacific Poker - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $6.95
SB: $7.27
BB: $6.30
UTG: $5.41
MP: $5.00
CO: $4.21

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K♣:J♠:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.12, SB calls $0.10, BB calls $0.07

Flop: ($0.36, 3 players) Q♦:T♦:5♠:
SB checks, BB bets $0.18, fold, fold

BB wins $0.34
Rake paid $0.02


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Pushka83
Joined: 16.01.2022

you never know but il fold too


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Without any info on the villain in this hand I would call 1 street and her-evaluate on the turn with position with 6 outs to hit the nuts.

Villain can lead with a draw as well.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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jiffybag
Joined: 21.12.2010

I made the same fold the other day. I decided that I'd fold because I can't predicted what my aggro opponents behind me are going to do and if it did go call call, there is a chance that they floating with some of my outs. If that makes sense?

If the flop was rainbow, or if we were heads up, I would consider it.

Definitely a call then. But as played, there's still the SB that could check raise...


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mkBISCUIT
Joined: 19.01.2018

I would be calling maybe even raisng, you have nut str8 draw, (yes it does have 2 diamonds that lead to the Flush you also have an over card..

As for preflop, you get 2 callers, they are probably both pretty wide, BB leading on flop can have anything... you with the PFR hold the TOP 2 sets in your hand q's and 10's and you are IP

I think my line would be pretty aggressive here, I believe i would raise here to .58-.66 if he comes over i fold, if he calls, then on turn any diamond if he checks to me I am betting 2/3 pot. any blank i am overbetting... AT any point if he comes over the TOP I fold unless i hit the str8....

Vorpol, i have been working onb a few things that why i havnet been blogging, will post some stuff over there at some point. probably end of month..


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FriskyArt
Joined: 27.10.2009

This is the type of spot where you can go C/F and even R all can work but depends on many factors. This is NL fast which is the same as Zoom at Stars I assume, so table image is non relevant and people tend to play a lot tighter here. You are either behind or he's on a flush draw witch leaves him more outs. I don't think I would fold it but after thinking about it I believe it's the better play in this situation.


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aceonetheriver
Joined: 26.12.2008

I would call if the flop had bern rain bow like you said and others said so.
I see many Flush Draws here versus us and we will get raised big on the turn...


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Talisker74
Joined: 17.08.2009

I prefer to raise here.
You have fold Equity.
You can draw to the nuts.
You can bluff bet if flush completes.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Talisker74
I prefer to raise here.
You have fold Equity.
You can draw to the nuts.
You can bluff bet if flush completes.

No fold equity 3-way on 888, and bluffing is pointless since you'll almost always get called.
But against solid players, you're quite correct


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