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timotheus
Joined: 12.06.2022

I'm new here, so I don't know how to do the layouts here, especially how you can implement the suits as pictures, so any help in that department would also be greatly appreciated. Also I hope that this is the right thread to post this.

Anyway, I would like to know in what (not so clear) situations you would call to a shove. I played the following hand a few days ago and I'm wondering, if I made the right decision EV-wise.

Online NL5, 9-handed, 4.50$ effective stacks:
Hero is in BB with AdQd; Main Villain (V1) is in HJ. Villain 2 in CO.

Action folds to V1 and he opens to 0.15$. V2 calls. BTN and SB fold. Hero 3-bets to 0.60$ and both Villains call.

Flop (1.81$): 9s 8d As

Hero C-bets 1.40$, V1 shoves, V2 folds.

My thought process was the following:
I have top pair with a good kicker and a backdoor flush draw.
V1 is playing really loose and agressive. Currently we're only behind 99, 88 and AKo. V1's range is capped, since he would 3-bet AA (which also is only 1 combination left) and AKs. I obviously have the blocker to an ace, which also reduces the combinations to AKo. I would also be surprised, if he showed up with two pair here after the 3-bet since most combinations (A9,A8,98) would fold to a 3-bet.

Moreover, we get value from some weaker aces and some semi-bluffs like OESD and FD, with which I would certainly 3-bet with some frequency.

Lastly, I get decent pot-odds (calling about 2.50$ into 5.70$, so a bit more than 2:1 if my math is correct)

I then ended up calling, to which V1 shows AKo and i end up losing the pot.

Now my question is: Would you call on the flop or just fold? I just began to learn poker about a month ago, so did I miss some obvious sign here, which could have helped me to fold?

V1 obviously jams into 2 players, I have an uncapped range and range advantage. Should this be a sign to back off?


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

I think you need 26% to call, and based on your description of the villain, this is a call, imo.

I think his flat with AK preflop is somewhat note worthy.


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by timotheus
I'm new here, so I don't know how to do the layouts here, especially how you can implement the suits as pictures, so any help in that department would also be greatly appreciated. Also I hope that this is the right thread to post this.

Hi timotheus,
Welcome to PokerStrategy.com :welcome:

The easiest way to post a hand history, is to copy it from the hand history file into a converter such as https://pokeit.co/convert/
The converter will render it into a standard format.

If you want to just post individual card names you can do it like so:

 :As: 

Which will look like so: A♠:
To avoid all the typing, you can access those card symbols by clicking the on the button strip above the row of fishes

All the best,
VS


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I have moved your hand to our hand discussion board. There fits it better.

I would most likely 3bet a little bit more pre-flop with in mind you are playing out of position post-flop. I would make it around 75c in total.

As played I would Cbet around half pot for value and protection and re-evaluate on further action.

Read less I would call the shove against a loose player that could over play weaker top pair hands.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Vampiir142
Joined: 01.10.2017

Vs spade FD, 88, 99, AK, A8,A9 what could "normaly rerise flop you have approx. 45%.
You can call 2,5 USD to win 8,20USD (5,70+2,50).
if you remove hands A8,A9 what fold to 3B you have better % (cca 50%vs 50%).


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