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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

GG Poker - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 136.88 BB
SB: 43.08 BB
BB: 100 BB
UTG: 100 BB
MP: 100 BB
Hero (CO): 102.52 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 3♣ 3♠

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1 BB

Flop: (4.4 BB, 2 players) 5♥ 3♥ 8♦
BB checks, Hero bets 1.56 BB, BB raises to 4 BB, Hero raises to 21.64 BB, BB calls 17.64 BB

Turn: (47.68 BB, 2 players) 3♦
BB checks, Hero checks

The villain is a tag.

As you can see I did check turn.

What do you think is the optimal line?


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VorpalF2F
Joined: 02.09.2010

Originally posted by Dr1fter808
What do you think is the optimal line?

So far, so good.
You've taken one of several "optimal" lines.
So much depends on how much opponent likes their hand.
88 or 55 is never going to fold (Zeebo's theroem), but even a nut flush is going to have a hard time paying you off


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I am gonna make a small bet like 1/2 to charge his draws and medium overpairs like 99-TT. Villiian show some intrest of the pot. He has something. So you should seek value


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by NapoleonBonaparte135
I am gonna make a small bet like 1/2 to charge his draws and medium overpairs like 99-TT. Villiian show some intrest of the pot. He has something. So you should seek value

Yes, I did not play this well. I looked it up. Solver wants us to just call the CR on flop. And then Bomb turn. You are right in thinking that money making occurs on the turn, not the flop. I think this is due to the fact that we don't wanna look polar anywhere.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

I don't think you need to bet to big on the turn after the 3bet on the flop.
20bb is big enough to get it in on the river.

Cheers,
SDK1987


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Dr1fter808
Joined: 11.10.2017

Originally posted by SDK1987
I don't think you need to bet to big on the turn after the 3bet on the flop.
20bb is big enough to get it in on the river.

Cheers,
SDK1987

Turn bet is recommended at 16.85BB, okay, maybe it is not that Huge. GTO Wizard says. But this is after we just flat his CR on flop.


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SDK1987
Joined: 12.11.2008

Could be. You're 3bet sizing on the flop is huge as well. Maybe with some reads it's not bad to 3bet huge on the flop for value and protecion against some villains.


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