Good example of implied odds

Originally posted by washburnwolf
So, I thought this was a great implied odds situation. What do you think about the play and would you've played it any different?

I would never limp in a cash game.
Other than that, the implied odds are against BB — SB's stack is so small it doesn't really matter.

You played quite well post-flop IMO.

I limped because I’m not very good playing gappers yet and wanted to invest as little as possible. You’re right though, I shouldn’t have limped.

What do you mean implied odds are against BB? Can’t we calculate it against any position that bets and you have to make a decision?

Thanks for your reply and help 🫡

I would raise 2,5x pre-flop and if you deal with passive villains folding isn't to bad ether.
Post-flop seems pretty standard. I don't think it wouldn't be bad to slow play the turn as well against a big bet. If you raise all bluffs would fold.

Cheers,
SDK1987

If you played like
https://forums.pokerstrategy.com/forum/thread.php?postid=3461867#post3461867

You'd raise 2.5BB Preflop - the reason is that you are in a steal situation on the cut-off and your primary objective is to take down the blinds, secondary play in position postflop. The default strategy would tell you to fold on the flop, and play it like you did on turn+river.

Flop call is an advanced concept, you only have the nuts on 3 cards but you have outs to a pair, and a bunch of your EV will come from bluffing potential - the call is for more than just implied odds with the few outs

Originally posted by SDK1987
I would raise 2,5x pre-flop and if you deal with passive villains folding isn't to bad ether.

Cheers,
SDK1987

When we are dealing with passive villains we can open steal wider actually. Our new beginner's guide is looser than solvers slightly with these hands

When people make mistakes behind you, you realize more equity and can open wider - we teach even complete beginners to open raise 97s because they will face passive people behind them who will not 3bet nearly enough, let them see flops and realize more equity with a hand like this even with the very basic post-flop strategy we have

Not so common wisdom
Whan I found out from Dara O'Kearney and Barry Carter's recent book is that you should be opening looser not only when people are too passive, but even when they are more aggressive than optimal- that's what the node-locking sims show. They play sub-optimally - which means EV of your opening hands goes up and you are supposed to open more of them (and then play more pots). Easier said than done however for most people, opening looser when people behind you are too passive is the easy part