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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

UTG opens, SB calls, BB overcalls with T♦:3♦:T♠:3♥:
Flop 7♠:K♦:5♣: checks through
T♣: SB bets 75%, BB raises 66%, UTG calls, SB calls
River:6s:
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets 50%, leaving 25bb behind, SB folds, BB? He should be weighted towards strong combo draws like Wrap+FD, but a Wrap would bet flop, unless he has a QJxx wrap +FD. At the time I wasn't paying attention so I folded thinking this is under bluffed spot vs 2 players and having no blockers , but now I think I should have called.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

I'd raise it a little bigger like 75%pot to pot. Turn texture became quite drawy.

SB looks fishy making loose calls in those low frequency spots. His turn cold-call likely has a nutted draw.

:9x::8x: and :8x::4x: made straights aswell. I think a call otr is pretty loose and in an unknown player field I would not do it.


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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

My thoughts were without blocker fold, with blocker call.


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ghaleon
Joined: 17.10.2007

Interesting turn spot imo. SB has often uncapped range (would not expect much/any leads on flop) and should have good amount of KK and combo draws. I would not mind to just call as this is one of weakest TT combo we can have. No redraw and no blockers to use in board changing scenario.

Problem is board is very drawy. There are almost no blank rivers. Of course some draws are bit less likely. So yeah we can get protection with raise but on other hand what is our plan versus SB 3bet? Anyway I would still raise lot of TT but some of weakest ones make ok calls.

As played on river we don't have blockers to straight and it's 3way pot making bluffs less likely. On other hand it's not worst call hand either as we also unblock busted draws. But I think it's still better to fold. SB also had something to bet-call so his range will likely block that QJ stuff fairly often.


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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

SB's range being strong did cross my mind. Also blocking the 7 is not ideal. I feel like just calling is too nitty vs unknown. Having position on him does help.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Originally posted by BunBun00
My thoughts were without blocker fold, with blocker call.

Btw do not overvalue blockers. They reduce the likelyhood of a possible hand just by some few %. So if villain is a nit in principle never bluffs, it also does not make sense to ever call despite having all blockers stacked. Player tendencies are always way more significant to your decision, you can use blockers if you think an opponent is well balanced in that spot and you need some additional hands to loosen up your game.


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BunBun00
Joined: 13.09.2023

Vs unknown players I just use blockers to make my decision. I am not good enough to start making major adjustments vs unknown players. Deviation/adjustment is double edged sword. If you don't know what you are doing, like me :rage:, it's probably best to stay clear for now. If I had more info on villain I would have made decision based on that.


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Mascherano95
Joined: 09.10.2010

Originally posted by BunBun00
Vs unknown players I just use blockers to make my decision. I am not good enough to start making major adjustments vs unknown players. Deviation/adjustment is double edged sword. If you don't know what you are doing, like me :rage:, it's probably best to stay clear for now. If I had more info on villain I would have made decision based on that.

You still gotta be careful. Some spots just are lower freq's plays so if you still always use blockers there you'd be out of whack


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