$1 SnG ATs UTG1 + Flop play

36bullets

Joined: 16.03.2010

Posts: 57

28.10.2010, 10:43 0

No information yet on other players because this was the first hand of the tournament.

Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

Play hand

$20/$40 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

Known players:
[tg]UTG2$2000.00:///////;MP1$2000.00:///////;MP2$2000.00:///////;MP3$2000.00:///////;CO$2000.00:///////;BU$2000.00:///////;BB$2000.00:///////;BB$2000.00:///////;UTG$2000.00:///////;UTG1 (Hero)$2000.00:///////;[/tg]

Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with T:h, A:h.
UTG folds, Hero calls $40.00, UTG2 calls $40.00, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $40.00, 4 folds, BB checks.

Flop: ($120) 6:h, J:h, Q:s (4 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG2 bets $180.00, MP2 folds, BB calls $180.00, Hero calls $180.00.

Turn: ($660) K:h (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, UTG2 raises to $1,780.00(All-In), BB folds, Hero calls $1,780.00(All-In).

River: ($4220) 6:c (2 players)

Final Pot: $4220.

poker noob from the Philippines

6 replies

Steelbrewer

Joined: 22.04.2009

Posts: 580

28.10.2010, 11:19 0

Fold preflop.

A10s is not good enough to raise preflop 10 handed with low blinds and openlimping from early position is one of the worst variations ever since you have a lot of players behind you, who can raise + you will be out of position posflop.

Suited aces are better played from late position in a multiway pot (overlimping after 3 or more players have already called) or completing from SB in a multiway pot.

36bullets Topic starter

Joined: 16.03.2010

Posts: 57

28.10.2010, 11:45 0

Yup, I know that I should fold this preflop, I know that I have no business calling here UTG but I already made the call. What I want to know is if I played the flop-turn correctly.

poker noob from the Philippines

dipsnis

Joined: 24.05.2010

Posts: 126

28.10.2010, 12:27 0

hi!
yeah fold preflop.
not shure about that call on the flop. :f_confused:

Steelbrewer

Joined: 22.04.2009

Posts: 580

28.10.2010, 22:42 0

Well:

1)your pot odds:

480/180= 2,(6) or 2 and 2/3

your odds:

outs: 9 hearts + 3 kings = 12

(47-12)/12 = 2,91(6)

If the pot odds are higher than the odds, it is profitable to stay in the hand. If they are smaller, it is not profitable to stay in the hand.

2,(6) < 2,91(6) close fold

2) However if you add 3 remaining Aces as your outs

odds - (47-15)/15= 2,1(3)

and 2,(6) > 2,1(3) clear call

http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/sng/762/1/

a strategy article about odds and outs - bronze one.

P.S. Considering you're in a multiway pot I would call in the first scenario as well based on the implied odds.

_Anonymous_

29.10.2010, 07:26 0

Fold pre, as played bet/get it in with our bazillion outs on the flop. Even without our Ace being live here, we are still at like roughly 1:1 odds of hitting the stone cold nuts* by the river (which means getting a multi-way call is AWESOME)

*unless the board pairs, in which case we're probably fucked lol

_Anonymous_

29.10.2010, 12:28 0

just like everyone else has said, fold pre....

as played, i think c/c is better than bet/call because its really hard to get value from worse hands by bet/calling. but we have a lot of really good implied if we c/c in a multi-way.

we're not really getting direct odds to c/c to the over-bet on the flop but with the implied odds against his strong range i think c/c is good. (his over-bet is so strong that he will pay us off VERY often if we hit the nuts on the turn which means we can call a slightly bigger bet multi-way than we normally could because of the implied odds).

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