Originally posted by mishkagg
Hello, TLN!
Just my 2 cents on the personal gym trainer:
this doesn't make any sense for a gym beginner.
Why?
Because as a complete beginner I can give you a training scheme to work with for at least 6 months and no trainer, I am sure on that, can argue it's a bad scheme.Personal trainers come in handy if you are:
a. a horny slut whose husband neglects
b. advanced user and the things you know can't help you complete your goals anymore and you need a tweak in the diet mostly and not in the training.As a start, here are some guidelines:
3 times in a week is impossible for a beginner.
first month you'll want to do 1 time/week and maybe 2 times last week. If you train intensive enough you are going to be OK for the next training in like a week.
you start with the most basic moves. Like bench pressing for chest and nothing more. Like barbell curls for biceps and nothing more. Like shoulder press and nothing more, etc.
as a beginner I think it's best to train the whole body in one very intensive session, not more than an hour long.
you do one exercise per muscle group, 4 series of 8 repetitions each.
A typical session would consist of the following:
chest exercise
back exercise
you can switch these two
legs exercise
arms - biceps/triceps
shoulder
Abdominal muscles you should train when you do your running.
That's that for the first six months.
Combine that with a diet of your choice - for muscle gain or for a fat loss and you're set up.![]()
You'd be right if he wasn't an ectomorph, plus he's a begginer theres no way any begginer goes hard enough on a full body session to get real gains the only gains he will see will be that of a noob, no mind muscle connection and no real idea where his limits are make this training very dodgey.
Also running for an ectomorph really?
Not to mention you should definately have a Personal Trainer for one to two sessions because it is so important to get proper form on Squat and Deadlift right.
Also to teach you how to run, people run horribly and end up with knee and ankles injuries.
8reps for an ectomorph again a bad idea it's at the lower end of the hypertrophy scale and will work some power aswell something he doesn't need as a powerlifter I can say it's very important to expand your muscles before trying to gain strength it makes a huge difference.
He should be going 10-12 reps or pyramiding from 12,10,8,6 these are the routines begginers get the best overall gains from.
I also don't agree you should train abdominals when your running, core strength is hugely important and will carry over into all his lifts.
He should train it twice a week atleast, plus he is ectomorph and core training gymnastic style like leg raises, planks, V-sits will quickly build his obliques and serratus giving a far more aestethic physique and giving the appearance of someone who works out alot but isn't bulky. It's what most people miss when they try to achieve "otter mode".
I also don't think anyone should use the one routine for six months, you only need to do a similair routine for the beggining to establish what your limits are after that it's all about changing your training even slightly on a regular basis.
Oh and never do isolation work on your arms in a whole body routine even for extreme meso's. Take a page out of Charles Poliquin's book and do close grip chins the exercise of champions.
And he might not just be training for physique or w/e if overall performance is the case then it should be HIT and circuit training all the way right from the get go.
Originally posted by ZeMammuth
You only get sore the first month or something, as your body adjust you no longer get sore after sessions.
Lol your trolling?
If you do squats or bench or well any compound exercise and your not sore the next day then your slacking hard core.
EDIT: As a personal note too as someone who found it hard to gain weight I would say workouts should only be 45-50minutes Bulgarian style otherwise there is a large drop in testosterone which really hurts ecto's and begginers.
But pretty much anything he do will have great results since it's the beggining, rock on man this is just gym fags argueing! ♦