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Tomaloc Topic starter
Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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got my go for status monies! :f_biggrin:

just ordered a withdrawal of $237 from my everest balance :f_biggrin:
and checking out my summit points... i have 3800 :f_eek: which i can convert into $15.20 :f_eek: that's a reasonable amount to keep in everest and play shortstack NL2 i guess.

anyway having turned $50 into $237, i totally feel like a sick baller

let's see how it goes on stars zoom :f_eek: i expect my winrate to drop by 50% or something
i'll post my everest lifetime graphs later. now i have to go :f_biggrin:


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FlashDavin
Joined: 25.10.2011
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Stars ZOOM is tough man. There aren't really any huge fish anymore. A fish is like a 30/15 guy which isn't that awful.

But I do love zoom the best so what can I do? =(


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sileekhunt
Joined: 09.06.2010
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Good job man.

You should find stars considerably tougher than everest - as in 2NL is more difficult there than 5NL on everest.

Such a shame that the Everest software is so awful. I would play there all the time if was even half way decent


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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thanks guys :spade:

yeah i believe you about stars. i remember the beginning of my career in FTP when i would fire up 6+ random NL2FR tables and in at least one of them there'd be like 6 nits playing 8/6 :f_eek:
then on rush... well but it's a weird feeling. i guess we just love the format :f_biggrin:

about everest software it is tilting indeed besides the many simple issues (no auto top-up? really?) i was thinking about writing a post on what i call "everest dynamics" :f_biggrin:
this is what i mean:

i don't think i'm ever going to write it
but i'll at least say something, i feel like a graduate on minbets. potsize bets are always going to be a tough beast though :f_rolleyes:


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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cashout processed successfully. no complaints, pretty quick and got the full amount :heart:

so i was hoping to get the deposit going on stars. fill blanks, STARS600, etc etc :f_zZz:
but i was greeted with this instead:

covered the guy's name because it doesn't matter and, well, some liability protection.
i think you can guess my reaction:

i have absolutely no idea who that guy is, or who can he be :f_biggrin:
so the checkbox says "I have read and understood this message". i did read it, but i did not understand it at all :f_biggrin:

anyway i checked the box because i had to. then send documents, 48 hours, whatever, waiting :f_zZz:
i was never one very prone to reallife tilt, but now i'm even better at that (thanks, poker!) so i managed to keep the email very civil :f_cool: it's like this post, but in formal polite style


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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in the while i'll post something boring for future reference.
my everest lifetime graphs (because i said i would):

all stakes:

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lifetime NL2SH:

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lifetime NL5SH:

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shots at NL10SH :f_eek::

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that is obviously close to my true winrate and i'd only expect it to go higher :f_biggrin:

a few hands (and winnings) are missing. don't ask me :f_confused:


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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hello again :f_biggrin: some news:

my issue has already been solved! :f_eek: that is good evidence that stars support is indeed the nuts. a well deserved applause:

so... now WHAT?
i'll set up a few random goals for this night:

[ ] play a random amount of play money hands to get used to the software
[ ] play 30~60 minutes of NL2FR zoom in a very loose-aggressive style
[ ] play NL5FR zoom in the remaining time (at least 1 hour also)

tomorrow i'll try NL5SH zoom, or not. depends on how i see FR
the NL2 maniac session, besides for testing out the waters, is to try out the PT4 HUD... and some happinessEV, like paying for entertainment :f_biggrin: not really expecting it to be profitable.

so if you are playing NL2FR zoom and see some new guy playing 25/21, it may be me! :f_eek:
wish me luck :f_biggrin:


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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in for first stars session report :f_biggrin:

[x] play a random amount of play money hands to get used to the software
[x] play 30~60 minutes of NL2FR zoom in a very loose-aggressive style
[x] play NL5FR zoom in the remaining time (at least 1 hour also)

first things first.
i busted my playmoney roll twice playing with 1BI BRM :f_eek: kids, that's why you should follow BRM!
i eventually converted that to 100k+ chips though (still with 1BI BRM) :f_biggrin: 10000% profit! :f_eek:

something pretty eventful happened at the playmoney session:

PokerStars - P200 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: P6,800.00
SB: P726,509.00
Hero (BB): P10,406.00
UTG: P25,600.00
UTG+1: P69,505.00
UTG+2: P38,200.00
MP: P18,550.00
MP+1: P73,400.00
CO: P152,000.00

SB posts SB P100.00, Hero posts BB P200.00

Pre Flop: (pot: P300.00) Hero has Q♥ A♥

fold, UTG+1 raises to P1,200.00, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to P3,700.00, UTG+1 calls P2,500.00

Flop: (P7500.00, 2 players) K♥ T♥ A♠
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets P2,000.00, Hero raises to P6,706.00 and is all-in, UTG+1 calls P4,706.00

Turn: (P20912.00, 2 players) J♥

River: (P20912.00, 2 players) 5♠

Hero shows Q♥ A♥ (Royal Flush) (Pre 71%, Flop 89%, Turn 100%)
UTG+1 shows 7♣ A♣ (One Pair, Aces) (Pre 29%, Flop 11%, Turn 0%)
Hero wins P20,912.00

my first ever

because i sure got soul owned at the real money session:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $6.74
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $5.02
UTG: $6.15
UTG+1: $8.38
UTG+2: $5.43
MP: $5.69
MP+1: $4.22
CO: $3.95

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K♠ K♣

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.50, fold, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.05, 2 players) 3♣ 4♠ 2♥
Hero bets $0.65, UTG raises to $2.96, Hero raises to $4.50 and is all-in, UTG calls $1.54

Hero shows K♠ K♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 67%, Flop 4%)
UTG shows 5♣ A♣ (Straight, Five High) (Pre 33%, Flop 96%)

Turn: ($10.05, 2 players) 7♣

River: ($10.05, 2 players) J♣

Hero shows K♠ K♣ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 67%, Flop 4%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows 5♣ A♣ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 33%, Flop 96%, Turn 100%)
UTG wins $9.63

first things first, i should 3bet slightly higher pre.
now when he raises flop... i think his range there is JJ+ and 44-22 ofcourse.
which means "pretty close". add half TT combos

Board: 3♣4♠2♥
       Equity     Win     Tie
UTG+1  54.38%  51.13%   3.26% { JJ+, 44-22 }
SB     45.62%  42.36%   3.26% { KsKc }

maybe unknown's expected range isn't like that though. i should get used again to the dynamics


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010
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Glad to see your issue with depositing was swiftly resolved!

That was a confusing message indeed, but surely it's a sign of them doing good work to assure no monkeybusiness is going on, and it'll in the end be in the favour of all users' protection?


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Krishjanis
Joined: 04.01.2010
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I also have gotten that Pokerstars message, for me it was 2 guys, one had earned 800$ the other 11k$ (looked up at PTR like a year ago). I just explained I had no idea who those guys were, sent my ID and the only reason I could think of why there was a problem, is that I was living in dorms and we all share the same Wifi. They fixed my problem in like a day.


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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Originally posted by fruktpuff
Glad to see your issue with depositing was swiftly resolved!

That was a confusing message indeed, but surely it's a sign of them doing good work to assure no monkeybusiness is going on, and it'll in the end be in the favour of all users' protection?

yeah i'm okay with it, as long as things are sorted out that quickly :f_biggrin:

Originally posted by Krishjanis
I also have gotten that Pokerstars message, for me it was 2 guys, one had earned 800$ the other 11k$ (looked up at PTR like a year ago). I just explained I had no idea who those guys were, sent my ID and the only reason I could think of why there was a problem, is that I was living in dorms and we all share the same Wifi. They fixed my problem in like a day.

as for my case i googled up his name and couldn't find anything at all :f_biggrin:
still i'm pretty curious as to just why that happened. maybe something with dynamic ips ?(

also sorry for the lack of updates. i'm playing, but just being lazy :f_biggrin:
i'll try to post something later today


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philenvyy
Joined: 14.01.2011
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Been reading your blog since the beginning, I must say it's quite entertaining, especially all the GIF's (where do you get them btw?).

Looked at your graphs and you lose awfully lot of money @ Non-Sd, mainly NL5. Why is that have you ever wondered?


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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so i didn't update yesterday at all. feel free to point it out to me :f_cry:

Originally posted by philenvyy
Been reading your blog since the beginning, I must say it's quite entertaining, especially all the GIF's (where do you get them btw?).

Looked at your graphs and you lose awfully lot of money @ Non-Sd, mainly NL5. Why is that have you ever wondered?

some of them i have saved, but for the most part i just search them up at the time of posting :f_biggrin: random tumblr teenage girls are good sources

as for the nonsd... that's an interesting question :f_eek: i blame "everest dynamics" and my table selection :f_biggrin:
we all know what is needed to stack fish:

zoom graph so far looks very different:

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also i know this needs MOAR hand histories.
anyway i wanted to say this yesterday already (but i was too lazy to update), there still is money in zoom! :f_eek:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $6.06
SB: $5.18
BB: $5.00
UTG: $4.59
UTG+1: $6.34
UTG+2: $9.88
Hero (MP): $7.13
MP+1: $2.28
CO: $5.16

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 8♠ 8♥

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.32, 2 players) 7♦ 6♠ 9♦
BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, BB raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.12, 2 players) 5♥
BB bets $0.85, Hero raises to $2.37, BB calls $1.52

if he has T8s while it's zoom and i have two blockers it's just a sick beat imo :f_biggrin:

River: ($5.86, 2 players) 2♣
BB bets $2.08 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.08

BB shows 7♣ 7♥ (Three of a Kind, Sevens) (Pre 18%, Flop 68%, Turn 25%)
Hero shows 8♠ 8♥ (Straight, Nine High) (Pre 82%, Flop 32%, Turn 75%)
Hero wins $9.60

i should definitely have raised this one sometime. still:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $5.00
SB: $9.23
BB: $3.39
UTG: $8.95
UTG+1: $3.87
UTG+2: $7.92
MP: $7.62
MP+1: $4.55
CO: $5.21

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 5♠ 5♥

fold, fold, fold, MP raises to $0.15, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.15, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) 5♦ 6♣ 2♥
MP bets $0.26, Hero calls $0.26

Turn: ($0.89, 2 players) J♦
MP bets $0.42, Hero calls $0.42

River: ($1.73, 2 players) 7♣
MP checks, Hero bets $1.32, ...

a check? surely he smelled it? :f_biggrin: i'll just bet big anyway to put QQ+ in a tough decision

MP calls $1.32

Hero shows 5♠ 5♥ (Three of a Kind, Fives) (Pre 19%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
MP mucks 9♣ 9♥ (One Pair, Nines) (Pre 81%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
Hero wins $4.19

ohwait, it wasn't QQ+
actually nh by him though because it's obviously standard for zoom players to float two streets with air to bluff river.

and this one was just awesome:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $5.45
SB: $9.53
BB: $4.51
UTG: $6.43
UTG+1: $3.44
UTG+2: $10.86
MP: $4.53
MP+1: $6.97
CO: $5.76

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q♣ J♣

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.33, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.23

a call... not exactly according to plan. well whatever

Flop: ($0.73, 2 players) 9♥ 9♠ Q♥
MP+1 checks, Hero bets $0.38, MP+1 raises to $0.76, Hero calls $0.38


i think i'm beat like 80%+ of the time here. i usually don't like to fold to unknown minraises being in position, but there's a case here being 3bet pot

Turn: ($2.25, 2 players) Q♠
MP+1 checks, Hero bets $1.18, MP+1 raises to $2.36, ...

in any case this being jokerstars of course i hit. but...
he's playing it like quad nines :f_eek: but i'm not going to outguess myself here

Hero raises to $4.36 and is all-in, MP+1 calls $2.00

MP+1 shows 9♦ 7♦ (Full House, Nines full of Queens) (Pre 36%, Flop 88%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows Q♣ J♣ (Full House, Queens full of Nines) (Pre 64%, Flop 12%, Turn 98%)

River: ($10.97, 2 players) K♥

MP+1 shows 9♦ 7♦ (Full House, Nines full of Queens) (Pre 36%, Flop 88%, Turn 2%)
Hero shows Q♣ J♣ (Full House, Queens full of Nines) (Pre 64%, Flop 12%, Turn 98%)
Hero wins $10.51

i'm enjoying zoom so far, i think i actually have a good edge :f_biggrin:
in b4 instadoomswitch


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Krishjanis
Joined: 04.01.2010
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Gif hand histories are the best :f_cool:


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010
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Loving the handhistory formats!


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Originally posted by fruktpuff
Loving the handhistory formats!

Too much Glee IMO :P

Ah no, really enjoying them too!


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Originally posted by fruktpuff
Loving the handhistory formats!

+1

Keep them coming


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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thanks everyone :heart: all support is greatly appreciated (really) :f_biggrin:

now that i see some staff persons ITT could some admin kindly edit my signature to add the blog link? where should i ask for it :P
i think that as a normal user i can't edit my signature without removing the course badge thingy :f_cry: anyway something like this would be awesome:

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as for today's pokerings... i wasn't feeling too well so i decided to donk around FR2 zoom like a maniac. even vs UTG every hand that i somehow decided that i wanted to play i'd 3bet:

PokerStars - $0.02 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $3.19
SB: $2.52
BB: $1.87
UTG: $1.80
UTG+1: $4.20
UTG+2: $1.89
MP: $2.74
MP+1: $1.21
CO: $3.61

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has T♥ J♠

fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $0.06, fold, fold, CO calls $0.06, Hero raises to $0.27, fold, fold, UTG+2 calls $0.21, fold

Flop: ($0.63, 2 players) Q♣ 2♣ 8♥
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets $0.39, fold

Hero wins $0.61

ended up with some 15% 3bet and... well :P still broke even
so yeah, i'm out to rest :f_zZz:


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Tiltmeifucan
Joined: 21.04.2012
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Awesome blog! :heart: i really like those gif's very original btw, never seen that one before. Good luck! :f_thumbsup:


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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thank you :spade:

now again with a Delayed Daily Review (patent pending)
this was yesterday's graph:

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red line tanks... :f_zZz:
but i won all my all-ins where i was a favourite which is always appreciated:

PokerStars - $0.05 NL ZOOM - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.38
SB: $4.55
BB: $4.61
UTG: $4.05
UTG+1: $6.07
UTG+2: $23.78
Hero (MP): $6.55
MP+1: $6.14
CO: $2.59

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K♥ K♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, MP+1 calls $0.15, CO raises to $2.59 and is all-in, fold, fold, fold...

donating to AA? :f_cry: well his stack lol whatever

Hero calls $2.44, fold

Hero shows K♥ K♠ (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 72%)
CO shows A♠ J♥ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 28%)

Flop: ($5.40, 2 players) 8♥ 2♥ Q♦

Turn: ($5.40, 2 players) 2♣

River: ($5.40, 2 players) Q♣

Hero shows K♥ K♠ (Two Pair, Kings and Queens) (Pre 72%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
CO shows A♠ J♥ (Two Pair, Queens and Twos) (Pre 28%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
Hero wins $5.18

sick rigged because we all know that KK never holds up after allins preflop.
anyway there were more interesting hands, but i'm too lazy to post them so you'll just have to forgive me this time. if you don't then whatever, i never liked you anyway :f_mad:

for those interested in zoom in general i'd like some opinions in a pretty interesting KK spot (link)
cya :f_biggrin:


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