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Originally posted by justkyle88
If a SSSers can't crush NL100 what hope do us BSS players have.

Is it really that nitty on NL100, i thought NL10 was nitty and after reading your last post im just scared.

BSS players Can Tighten up considerably easy against Known SSS players. Its very easy to only play QQ+ against them yet still make a lot of profit from other, Looser BigStack Players. SSS and BSS are a completely Different BallGame Imo, BSS being way less Marginal of course.


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Joined: 07.05.2008
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In the afternoon it is okay but in the evening more grinders than Fish are coming. And if the fish are coming they will probably last 30 minutes till 45 minutes.

Yesterday evening the tables were okay but guess they hit their toppair or contuining Q:s:Q:d on a K:cT:c2:c board crippled me. no FE at all.. darn..

Nexxt!


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Hey Gerv, can I get a few tips from you?

I'm just adding stats to my game and I would like to know where to begin with. VPIP and PFR are first in, but as a second step I thought of adding steals/re-steals related stats. There are so many options in the elephant hud that it's a little confusing in the beginning. For instance, should I go with ATS or "Open Raise from Late Position" to make re-steal moves? The silver articles always mention ATS, but I thought I should check it out anyway...

Is there anything else I should think of adding soon to the game?

And a curious question here. What is your hud display like, what do you use in your game? I know when you post your hands you also post an incredibly detailed list of stats of your oponents, how does that work while you're playing?

Thanks!


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There is no ATS stat in Elephant.


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Yep, just realised it...


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Originally posted by dandycal
Hey Gerv, can I get a few tips from you?

I'm just adding stats to my game and I would like to know where to begin with. VPIP and PFR are first in, but as a second step I thought of adding steals/re-steals related stats. There are so many options in the elephant hud that it's a little confusing in the beginning. For instance, should I go with ATS or "Open Raise from Late Position" to make re-steal moves? The silver articles always mention ATS, but I thought I should check it out anyway...

Is there anything else I should think of adding soon to the game?

And a curious question here. What is your hud display like, what do you use in your game? I know when you post your hands you also post an incredibly detailed list of stats of your oponents, how does that work while you're playing?

Thanks!

I'm sorry that I could not reply earlier on your question as I wasn't focused on poker these previous days, now I am and I am happy to do something fun with my hobby :)

Important Stats for a beginner is VPIP/PFR/ Aggression Factor/ Went to Showdown and OpenRaiseLate (=Steal from CO+BTN while ATS = ORL+SmallBlind steal)

I use the following panel on my HEM:

-- New Panel 1--
VPIP
PreFlop Raise
Limp/Call
Hands
--New Panel 2--
Steal
BB 3bet vs Steal
BB fold vs Steal
SB fold vs Steal
-- New Panel 3--
Fold to Flop CB
Raise flop CB
Flopp Agg Factor
Flop Agg Frequencey

The rest is on my popup which I kindly add when I have a questionable hand :)

Today I will be playing + I got a private coaching done by Xarry2, looking forward to that

- Gerv


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A quick 2 cents for you guys before I make an extensive review of yesterday:

Xarry2 and I had a good talk about hands and in particular questionable freeplay hands and stuff. iPoker was down but at some point I could play again. I lost a stack on NL200 against a fish but quickly won it back :)

Furthermore standard suckouts, 5 stacks down while EV was -7bb. Overall Xarry is a fine guy with a passion for the game like me!

The financial result was Bad but who cares if you get co-operated by an Experienced Player worth Gazillion units of money,points and knowledge?

I learned alot consciously and unconciously, it opened my eyes a bit more.

Now, opening a beer, I will call it for a day. Thanks xarry & johannes for making this possible :)

- Gerv


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[x] Coaching, Coaching!

Even though I was down in terms of money, yesterday was a good day! I was getting my first ever private coaching and I really felt needing it to cover up some doubts about myself and my plays.

As I said in the previous post, xarry2 coached me through Skype & Mikogo and instead of a more Master : Student ratio in the beglnning, we discussed hands as if we are from the same rank. Discussion is thé tool for a poker player to progress and be more successful. You play on your own but creating certain ideas/plays/strategies/thesis and keeping it for yourself, trying to tweak it by your own never helps.
Because other people have different views on your idea and can crack it down or even worse: exploit you.

Now I can show you the graph in 2 sessions and it is pretty bad as I would have applied the stop loss limit immediately after -100bb.. Nevertheless we only played on 5 or 4 tables when doing the coaching because iPoker servers were fucking around.

As you can see, it was pretty much a day of losing coinflips and losing due beats. A small illustration I will show now because I dont want to spend this post on beats..:

BTN: $91.41
Hero (BB): $18.50
MP1: $18.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 7 :spade: 7 :heart:
3 folds, MP1 calls $1, 3 folds, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero calls $1, MP1 calls $1

Flop: ($6.50) 7 :diamond: T :spade: J :diamond: (3 players)
Hero checks, MP1 checks, BTN bets $3.00, Hero raises to $16.50, MP1 folds, BTN calls $13.50

Turn: ($39.50) 3 :club: (2 players)
River: ($39.50) 4 :spade: (2 players)

Final Pot: $39.50
BTN shows T :heart: T :diamond:
BTN wins $37.55

Yugh guess that happens too !

Well we started at 19:15 CET and the iPoker server was down so we did some theory and analyzing my statistics. Theory with discussing hands that I strongly disliked folding or calling with.

For example, I strongly disliked a passive attitude with a Flushdraw Headsup during a freeplay in Position but afterwards through discussion we both agreed it was the best play because getting aggressive and folding to a Reraise does not really make sense.

So we talked about 4 hands that really crushed my mind in terms of how to optimize my plays here and he showed me to recognize some alarm bells in Fishes their betting pattern. Pretty useful :)

So by this time around 20:15 CET, the servers were Working and I scanned the tables looking for tables. But I was not the only one. Waiting lists soon filled up to 30 people, what tha!?!?

Anyways, I opened a fishy 8max table on Nl200 and by playing on one table only, we had time to look for reads and continue discussing hands. I lost a stack by a PP-Caller preflop and hitting his set. Good for him but a few rounds later I had K:c T:d and the flop came K:s7:s3:h and I bet out as a probe bet into 3 people (4way pot).

iPoker $200.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players
Hero (BB): $39.00
UTG: $267.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with T :diamond: K :club:
UTG calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, 1 fold, CO calls $2, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($9.00) 6 :heart: 4 :diamond: K :spade: (4 players)
Hero bets $7.00, UTG calls $7, UTG+1 calls $7, CO calls $7

Turn: ($37.00) T :club: (4 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $37.00, UTG+1 folds, CO folds, Hero calls $30 all in

River: ($97.00) T :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $97.00
UTG shows K :heart: A :diamond:
Hero wins $94.00
(Rake: $3.00)

The check/raise all-in on the Turn was a point of discussion between me and xarry. Ofcourse leading out by a shove is also OK but the T:c was either the card of death (as I said ) or a heavens card ( As xarry said )

But with 4 people, playing check/raise is okay, headsup I would shove.
By checking, the fish that slowrolled a set previous hand against me bets potsized where UTG+1 and CO folds.

I put him on a set and called out for insurance while Xarry said ''He has AceKing or something''. I called it afraid of losing another stack but yeah I won it :o!

At some point we switched from Poker to Music and from Music to Mindset in Poker and other things. It was interesting to see so many similar aspects that we share :) At least that's what I analyzed by hearing his passion.

We were both pretty tired in the end and I decided to grab a Guinness and enjoyed the night with some WWE! SmackDown.

I am looking forward to the next private coaching because it surely improves my play and I only can recommend it if you want to reach the higher limits because at some point you will be only playing ABC and not thinking about situations while a coach can give you some insight about other options.

Tonight I will be doing the SSS Bronze coachings from 18:30 - 20:00 CET and before and after that I will be probably playing some SSS to clear my Bonus and get the hell out of iPoker, not that I like it but in terms of Bonuswhoring: There are other sites as well and I think the Rakeback deals on iPoker kills the game!

For now thanks for reading!
Gerv

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NL SSS by IngolPoker

Go to you NL2 fish!! Lol i finished 12 cents up but about 50 cent up on you.

Is that worth a dollar at least? :D


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Hey Gerv, thanks a lot for the tips regarding stats, very helpful!


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[x] Looks good...

Hello :)
I really appreciated the kind feedback you gave me for the coaching, I really enjoyed doing it :) I forgot to answer Alleus questions twice in the end but when he told me that I didnt answered them, I quicky answered them - sorry about that!

Sunday should be a day where most fishes will play their ass off before watching TV on 19:00 CET etc.etc. Prior to my coaching, they infact were more or less. However I decided to play significantly less to see what kind of impact it had on my play. Instead of the usual 9 till 12 tables where I am still not sure if that's the most +EV thing to do. I played up to seven. And I must say I am pretty surprised by the result!

Back in the days where I played on PartyPoker, I also played like 6 or 7 Tables maximum and that worked fine so why should I change the winning formula? Maybe because iPoker is slower compared to Party? Well at some point you would have to make rush-decisions which aren't really good to evaluate because you were in another state of mind.

Yeehaw the graph is going up and I will continue playing up to 7 tables. Sacrificing heavy activity for ''boredom'' but also gaining more concentration and thus a higher expected Value is for me a good deal at this moment :)

I played a total of 87 minutes and thus only 475 hands. My VPIP was 6.9% and PFR 6.5% and I felt like a Basic Shortstacker but Hey! If the table is Loose, you have to play tighter and vice-versa !

The first major hand we got dealt and received action was 20 minutes ingame with A:cK:h :

$0.5/$1 No Limit Holdem
9 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($59.48)
UTG+1 ($101.50)
MP1 ($92.35)
MP2 ($63.35)
MP3 ($102.45)
Hero (CO) ($26.10)
BTN ($16.35)
SB ($18.89)
BB ($18.50)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 9 players) Hero is CO K♥ A♣
1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4 ($97.50), 1 fold, MP2 calls $4 ($59.35), 1 fold, Hero raises to $26.10 ($0), 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $22.10 ($75.40), MP2 folds ($59.35)

Main Pot ($57.70)
Hero: 74.80% (EV = $17.06)
UTG+1: 25.20% (EV = -$11.56)

Flop: 4♣ 3♥ 2♦ ($57.70, 2 players)

Main Pot ($57.70)
Hero: 79.10% (EV = $45.64)
UTG+1: 20.90% (EV = $12.06)

Turn: 5♠ ($57.70, 2 players)

What the Hell?!

Main Pot ($57.70)

River: 9♣ ($57.70, 2 players)
Final Pot: $57.70
UTG+1 shows: Q♣ A♠

Hero wins $27.42 ( won +$1.32 )
UTG+1 wins $27.43 ( won +$1.33 )
MP2 lost -$4

Great a split pot >_> oh well at least no losses

1 Minute later it was really bingo! Bingo!

$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players

BB: $18.50
*Reads: Snap3bets a TAG/nit on MP with 88 and lost against KK*

Hero (UTG+1): $18.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG+1 with K :diamond: A :spade:
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, BB raises to $11, Hero raises to $18.50, BB calls $7.50

*We showed the cards and click here to hear what I actually said*

Flop: ($37.50) 3 :spade: 2 :club: 6 :heart: (2 players)
Turn: ($37.50) J :diamond: (2 players)
River: ($37.50) 7 :spade: (2 players)

Final Pot: $37.50
BB shows A :club: Q :spade:
Hero wins $35.65

*Good Job Gerv =)!*

The road to the next hand was long and dull but that's were music entertains you, you even can sing along to have FUN! And that's what I think is one of the most important aspects of Poker: As long as you keep having fun, you are doing a pretty good job!

I got dealt pocket tens on a fishy table and I see 2 limpers in front me who limp/calls >50% and my stack just screams for normal raise + shove any flop. Although I didnt felt raising it In position , I just did it with Tens. They were fish after all.

$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players

UTG: $33.93
MP1: $46.55
Hero (CO): $18.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with T :club: T :spade:
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1, 1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 3 folds, UTG calls $5, 1 fold

*Seriously Limp/Call with a 33bb stack?!?!*

Flop: ($14.50) 4 :diamond: 7 :spade: A :heart: (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $12.50, UTG calls $12.50
UTG shows 8 :heart: A :diamond:

''Kay this is not looking good for me ehm...''
*This SUCKS =(*

Turn: ($39.50) T :diamond: (2 players)

''Woooooooooooooooooo!''
*Wooohooohooo!*
''Wicked!''

River: ($39.50) 6 :club: (2 players)

Final Pot: $39.50
UTG shows 8 :heart: A :diamond:
Hero wins $37.55

Well because of this, my EV in this session dropped significantly :P But it was nice to see the Turn-card after all +EV moves and still losing the hands X(

Then I squeezed AKo against a pretty good player and a coldcalling Fish. However the good player folded while the Fish called and showed A:sQ:s

With 1 card on the Flop and 1:s on the Turn, I was shaking abit but the river was a complete blank and I shipped it :)

The last hand I won was pretty strange. Strange in the sense of my betting line, the statistics of the players and the image I had. I played as you could have read 7.4/6.9~ and my stack was 15.5bb there. I shipped it on the Flop nevertheless:

$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hero (SB): $16.00
BB: $97.90
UTG: $53.52

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 5 :spade: 5 :heart:
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50, BB checks

Flop: ($3.00) 5 :club: 9 :club: 4 :spade: (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $2.00, UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $13, UTG folds

Turn: ($35.00) K :spade: (2 players)
River: ($35.00) 3 :diamond: (2 players)

Final Pot: $35.00
BB shows 9 :diamond: 8 :club:
Hero wins $33.25
(Rake: $1.75)

I did not liked the check/call because I didn't wanted to see many cards in terms of connectiviness. On the flipside, check/raise all-in can only represent a monster hand but I was surprised by the call despite that I won the hand and took the winnings home :)

So all-in-all, I had a great Sunday with you as viewers witnessing my BSS donking skills on NL2 (I think I won some moniez) + I won some moniez on NL25 SSS and I hoped it was clear to see my actions.

Tonight, some easy session with 7 tables, let's see if I can continue

- Gerv!

iPoker Network
Session Time: 86 minutes
Hands played: 475
Limit: Adv. SSS Nl100
Bonus: +$10
Tables: 6
Profit/Loss: +$50.17 ( +50BB )
Extra: Stabilizing Nl100 - Bonuswhoring
iPoints: 735 (Level 4 VIP)
Bankroll: NL100
Metagame: Okay :)
Feeling/Intuition (0=Disastrous,10=Perfect):8

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Love this one: http://tf2wiki.net/w/images/3/34/Scout_positivevocalization05.wav

Good to see that youre positive about the NL200 shot.
I hope i'll get there soon too.


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Joined: 07.05.2008
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Originally posted by KeesAZ
Good to see that youre positive about the NL200 shot.
I hope i'll get there soon too.

Yeah thanks :) I mostly add some fishy NL200 tables but that's it. On the flipside I rail Kukkiwon sometime when he plays on NL200 because he can handle the scare money problem, :)


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[x] She's a Gold digger!

Playing as I can with 7 tables maximum, I played only one sessioni and that was before my dinner :) my import of hands were ready and the Waiting lists were okay so I could join very fast!

Playing only 350~ hands per hour has a drawback but I found the relaxing atmosphere more comforting :) I mean, SSS is actually a multitable strategy but I see that I make (too) many mistakes if I table up to 12. As an addition I don't found it very comforting to lose stacks because of my own fault. That's simply too much money for me, I care about it since I was cocky towards Money + Friends while Clubbing waay long ago.. :rolleyes:

Playing seventy-five minutes straight was okay but the result was very cool, I tried to mix in some emotions as in ''FWAAAAAATCHA Dominated !'', I think some person didn't liked that when I shouted YESSS lol

The session itself went flawless with little to no NON-SD losses

The hand that boosted my BR in the end was as if I was a Supporter/Hooligan/DieHard Fan of a soccerclub shouting HIT HIT HIT HIT !!

$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

MP2: $46.60
Hero (BTN): $20.00
UTG+1: $10.98

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with A :diamond: K :club:
UTG calls $1, UTG+1 raises to $10.98, 2 folds, MP2 calls $10.98, 1 fold, Hero raises to $20, 3 folds, MP2 calls $9.02

Flop: ($53.48) A :heart: 9 :diamond: J :heart: (3 players)

Turn: ($53.48) J :spade: (3 players)

River: ($53.48) 6 :diamond: (3 players)

Final Pot: $53.48
MP2 shows 8 :heart: 8 :spade:
UTG+1 shows 4 :diamond: Q :diamond:
Hero shows A:d K:c
Hero wins $50.83
(Rake: $2.65)

Overall it was a good session with TARP's everywhere..l. QQ openlimp UTG, AA openlimp MP etc.etc. it still happens and I didnt had a read on them *yugh*

Take for example this idiot on a 8-max table on iPoker:

$100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players

UTG+1: $37.45
MP1: $85.05
MP2: $37.00
CO: $162.70
BTN: $31.45
SB: $167.35
Hero (BB): $15.50
UTG: $111.35

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with J :spade: J :diamond:
2 folds, MP1 calls $1, 2 folds, BTN raises to $2, 1 fold, Hero raises to $15.50, MP1 raises to $31, 1 fold

Flop: ($33.50) 8 :heart: 6 :heart: 3 :club: (2 players)
Turn: ($33.50) 2 :diamond: (2 players)
River: ($33.50) 8 :diamond: (2 players)

Final Pot: $33.50
MP1 shows Q :diamond: Q :club:
MP1 wins $31.85
(Rake: $1.65)

Maybe my shove with 15.5bb was questionable but reraising to 6bb and shove any flop didn't make sense either with Jacks. Furthermore both were Fish but on the limper I had <100 hands. Now I noted him down twice by limp/3bet monsters UTG/MP so I am warned =D

I played 11/9 in this session with 6.7% 3bet, 8 Aggression Factor & 26% WTSD, 74% W$@SD :)

Lets look to the future and continue this pace.
I also bought some Usenet credits to download some WWE/Anime and other things I couldn't download through Rapidshare/Megaupload & Torrents yet. My free Usenet server downloads only at 40Kb/s :(

See you tomorrow!
Gerv

iPoker Network
Session Time: 75 minutes
Hands played: 456
Limit: Adv. SSS Nl100
Bonus: +$10
Tables: 6
Profit/Loss: +$77.38 ( +77BB)
Extra: Bonuswhoring + Stabilizing Nl100
iPoints: 844
Bankroll: NL100
Metagame: Okay during these times :)!
Feeling/Intuition (0=Disastrous,10=Perfect):8

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[x] Refuse to Lose

Hey guys, blegh there is just something wrong that I cashed out on iPoker today after this session (yesterday) and today's session. It is just too TIGHT. I am planning to grind my remaining bonus after my Everest Adventure. :)

So this day really sucked because my concentration was sometimes way off something else. Perhaps daydreaming? Who knows :) Besides that I won all 80/20% situations I ran into some coolers what happens but is statistically unrealistic.

Despite the strange moves on NL200, yes I tried a table again but with no avail. Enough fish but plenty of strange moves I didnt had a read on ;)

But first of all: would you play this differently?

Party Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players

SB: $89.05

Hero (UTG): $27.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with J :heart: J :diamond:
Hero raises to $4, 4 folds, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.00) Q :diamond: 9 :club: 8 :spade: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6.00, SB calls $6

Turn: ($21.00) 2 :heart: (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($21.00) T :heart: (2 players)
SB bets $21.00, Hero calls $17.15 all in

Final Pot: $55.30

I will post what he had tomorrow, ofcourse feel free to guess his hand but I prefer that you also say what line you would take from Postflop (cbet or not?) and on!

The graph ain't really interesting besides a downfall what's typical SSS :) Bonusclearing compensated a bit but I lost a buy-in due my own stupidity and that's a buy-in too much in my opinion >_<!

In the end I got fried by a Fish X( It was like the oooh-wtf moment of the evening.. well it happens

The Fried Fish Moment
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Party Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 10 players -

Hero (BB): $20.00
UTG: $55.15

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 8 :spade: J :spade:
UTG calls $1, 8 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.50) 9 :spade: 7 :spade: 2 :club: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.00, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($6.50) 2 :spade: (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $3.00, Hero raises to $9, UTG raises to $31, Hero calls $8 all in

River: ($40.50) 6 :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $40.50
UTG shows A :spade: T :spade:
UTG wins $38.50
(Rake: $2.00)

As one can read, I do not have many things to talk about as this day was basically playing-tf2 and playing :) I will play whenever I can on my new platform: Everest Poker!

I do the $500 Diamond Bonus because next week I have a holiday so I can grind my ass off

Be strong, be cool!

- Gerv

iPoker Network
Session Time: 3h
Hands played: 870
Limit: Adv. SSS Nl100
Bonus: +$30
Tables: 6 or 7
Profit/Loss: -$79.4 ( -80BB)
Extra: Bonuswhoring + Stabilizing NL100
iPoints: 1700
Bankroll: NL100
Metagame: Okay but rather tight right now :(
Feeling/Intuition (0=Disastrous,10=Perfect):6

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Edit:Fixed Yes i know what you mean about ipoker. I have been trying to SSS on NL10 there but it is impossible to find a table with less than 3 SSS'ers. But today i got TAF money at party and was surprised at the difference on NL10 there.

Anyway this is still a good blog and i check it out every time i come on! I also have a week off next week so i will also be on serious grind time! Good luck and keep up the good blogging!


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concerning the jj hand. NH I would have played it exactly the same. good luck on everest. I have cleared the 500 diamond bonus multitabling 9-12 nl25 tables (sss) and it was about 100% rakeback for me which is very nice. you actually get 520$ because your earned points can be transfered for cash.


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Joined: 07.05.2008
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Originally posted by alland
concerning the jj hand. NH I would have played it exactly the same. good luck on everest. I have cleared the 500 diamond bonus multitabling 9-12 nl25 tables (sss) and it was about 100% rakeback for me which is very nice. you actually get 520$ because your earned points can be transfered for cash.

Nice thank you, how many hands did you needed in total? :)

Where are you playing now?

@KingDippy,

Fixed Lawl what a shame of my title :(!!

Thanks for the comments, how come you dont have a blog ;)?


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Basically becuase now im playing NL2 SH lols!
Also i dont have an elephant licence yet but i would say in about a week of SSS'in on party i will have accumlated the 200 and something points i need.
Then i will make one! Im not sure wether mine will ever get 27 pages long (:P :P) but we will see. :)


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JJ hand is well played Gerv!

I've just deposited on Mansion, so lets see if the tables are quite fishy.


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