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Originally posted by dydukas

Originally posted by Hlynkinn

Originally posted by dydukas

Originally posted by Hlynkinn
because short term results are super unimportant and any affect it has on your mentality is most likely going to be negative...

Yeah, you got my idea right. I don't understand how short term results, for example looking at your 100 games graph, can change your game. That's why I asked. :)

I can see it very clearly how running bad in 100 games and seeing the graph can put you on a small tilt :) Subconscious tilt most likely..
and it's also just so poker doesn't affect him as much in real life.. Knowing you had a bad day is one thing.. but knowing you lost $937.57 is a lot worse :)

Personally not looking at my graph tilts me.. so I look at it on regular bases :)
But I have a super easy time forgetting all about poker when I stand up from this desk so it only affects my game not my life :)

It just differs from person to person I guess.. but knowing the danger will help you understand the tilt and hopefully manage to not tilt.

Another thing I don't understand is stop loss. You're losing, means you have to grind even more to catch up with the EV, why stop?

Why I'm wondering about this is that I had a 30 BI downswing yesterday and I kept doing the same all the time and today I'm almost break even for two days. And looking at my shit run graph really helped me concentrate. [EDIT: btw I played 300 games over those two days, not a normal sample but still :)]

It is all about if losing/winning affects your emotions, your game, your decisions.

If not, then stop loss or looking/not looking on ur graph doesnt matter at all.
Ofc its all just one big session.

But i doubt anyone can claim he is 100% tiltless.


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chenny8888
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Originally posted by dydukas
Hi again!

You stated numerous times in your blog not looking at your graph as a goal. I don't think this can change your ranges or anything. Maybe bad results just motivate you to concentrate more on the decisions, no? Why so? Could you explain?

looking at your graph will make you think that you're playing poorly or well when in actuality the result could be the opposite. always focusing on your decisions is the best way to ensure you play as well as you can.


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Duncan737
Joined: 09.08.2010
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Originally posted by dydukas

Why I'm wondering about this is that I had a 30 BI downswing yesterday and I kept doing the same all the time and today I'm almost break even for two days. And looking at my shit run graph really helped me concentrate. [EDIT: btw I played 300 games over those two days, not a normal sample but still :)]

Congratz, you are unemotional robot. :) Good for you
Or you lie to yourself. ;) Not so good for you.


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busto in the main event :(

nursed a 20bb short stack for 3 levels without going to SD. then shipped 18bigs on the CO against an active young guy who opened UTG+2. AJ < 66 gg .

played great, dont think i made any mistakes. just wasnt my day.

playing the 550 turbo on sunday which will be the last event in the series.


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Tim64
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You did your best, dear. Thats all anyone can ask.

OMG, I sound like my mum...


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ummm the sky is falling?


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DannyG13
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Originally posted by lessthanthreee
ummm the sky is falling?

Certainly looks that way. What do you make of it, withdrawn or anything?


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Hlynkinn
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Originally posted by lessthanthreee
ummm the sky is falling?

looks really fugly atm..


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a lot of people are very fucking nervous right now. me included.

i want a public statement by stars/ft to give their customers some information.


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it seems like its business as usual for non US players. im being cautious with the amount of money i keep on stars/FT for the moment, but I will be continuing the daily grind. might have to play across multiple sites if the games are now shit. but that shouldnt be a worry.

For those who are backing me for SCOOP. I still plan on playing the events if they run. And we can expect some pretty +EV overlays if they do. so game on!


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Originally posted by lessthanthreee
it seems like its business as usual for non US players. im being cautious with the amount of money i keep on stars/FT for the moment, but I will be continuing the daily grind. might have to play across multiple sites if the games are now shit. but that shouldnt be a worry.

For those who are backing me for SCOOP. I still plan on playing the events if they run. And we can expect some pretty +EV overlays if they do. so game on!

I am from greece but i cant withdraw.I can play in tables but i cant even tranfer money to players.Same for you?


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i have withdrawals pending on FT. Id say their servers are laggy as hell because of all the traffic and it might take them a few days to sort out all the non-US withdrawals. Ill probably start playing on other sites just in case the withdrawals take too long to process. gotta get money from somewhere...


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Hope it all sorts itself out alright man. Must be somewhat scary, having fairly little control over a situation which is intrinsically linked to your primary income.
All the best.


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Tim64
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<3, are you in a hurry to withdraw from FT?

Have about 1/2 my roll there... Prolly no reason to panic...?


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amplifyd
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I think tilt is more at risk than stars but then this risk can be low so meh


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Originally posted by amplifyd
I think tilt is more at risk than stars but then this risk can be low so meh

still in risk for european players?


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Originally posted by belthazorrrr

Originally posted by amplifyd
I think tilt is more at risk than stars but then this risk can be low so meh

still in risk for european players?

Well like noone knows, but like there probably is still some risk there. But nothing much we can do about it anymore - since don't think any cashouts are getting through.


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Originally posted by Tim64
<3, are you in a hurry to withdraw from FT?

Have about 1/2 my roll there... Prolly no reason to panic...?

ive got some $ on tilt. I am trying to withdraw a bit mainly to see how long the process will take and to have a larger reserve in case there are problems in the future. I hope the dust will settle over the next few days and non-US processing will be smoother than it currently is. If the process is unreliable or plain non-existent I will be forced to go elsewhere. No point winning money on stars/FT if you cant withdraw it?

I'm not worried about losing the money. I am more worried about their capacity to process the panic cash-outs and what effect this may have on their ability to run a business.


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was just listening to a podcast where the victory poker CEO came on. he seemed to be very knowledgeable on the issues and the industry. He uses the same lawyers as stars/FT.

He was asked whether US players should worry about getting their bankrolls back.

He was 100% confident that players would receive their rolls in the future. Stars/FT are too big, and their international income streams/business stakes are large enough. He said even if they were to get hit with a $3b fine their daily revenue would still be enormous. Stars/FT are here to stay and they want to do everything they can to have a shot at the US market when it is legalized.

It may take weeks maybe months but US players will receive their rolls. For us non-US players, there will be obvious delays in processing cash-outs because of the panic.

This is a quote from the 2p2 NVG sticky:

PokerStars has been calling players:

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Originally Posted by MattC View Post
PokerStars gave me a call today. Not a whole lot of new information but figured I would share what I was told. I was told they are calling all players to relay this information.

1) They again reassured me that player's funds are safe.

2) They plan to have more information to give us on Monday or Tuesday.

3) I asked them if I made a foreign bank account if that would help me retrieve the funds more quickly. They told me it was their general policy that you can't cash out anywhere but the country you reside in but given the special circumstances that new options may be made available.


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