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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
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I suffered a real life bad beat last night. Mrsjb calmly informed me that my mother-in-law, her two dogs and my niece and nephew (5 and 10 :facepalm: ) are coming to visit on Wednesday and staying until Saturday. My m-i-l is harmless but mental, her dogs are harmless but mental, and the kids are, well, they're kids. You might deduce from this that our house is some sort of country palace with endless bedrooms, but in reality it's an ex-council house with three bedrooms. This means that, quite apart from the pandemonium, the running around screaming and the barking (and that's just my m-i-l), at bed time we have to crack out the two sofa beds, which basically fill up the whole of downstairs. I may be able to play some poker. I may be able to watch the telly with mrsjb and mrsjb senior, but basically, whatever I do, I'm going to be stressed and grumpy.

We have the big final game of the chess season tomorrow night. The team that always wins the league, and frankly are a bunch of tossers, are one point ahead of us and we have to play them at home. So, if we win, we win the league, and are county champions for the first time ever, and if we draw or lose, we come second. It's a real Man U v Man City moment for us, and tbh, I'm bricking it. The only good thing is that I can use it as an excuse not to come home until after 10pm when the mayhem will, I hope, have subsided a little. Actually, what usually happens is that mrsjb invites them all with a smile on her face then kicks the buggers out early, saying 'Never again!'. The most annoying thing is that I'm going to be away all of next week. Why couldn't she have invited them then? Why? Why??? :f_cry:


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vonki
Joined: 18.03.2008
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You missed the part in my quote where you... well I dont know what you wrote there. :f_frown: :f_biggrin:


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conall88
Joined: 02.01.2009
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lol barking m-i-l.


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jbpatzer
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Originally posted by vonki
You missed the part in my quote where you... well I dont know what you wrote there. :f_frown: :f_biggrin:

No idea what you mean, but I hope you didn't think I was being rude. I always appreciate any comments. I feel like 'weird line + huge river bet = nuts' would not be a bad rule to apply at NL25, but I need to look at my database for 'weird line + huge river bet = spazz or air' hands just to check that it's not just selective memory, which it could well be.


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jbpatzer
Joined: 23.11.2009
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I just finished playing Chenny at backgammon. Two first to five matches - he won the first, I won the second. He thinks he knows what he's doing - I think he doesn't. I think I know what I'm doing - he thinks I don't. I expect we are both huge backgammon fishes, but it makes for an interesting conversation.


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010
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Originally posted by jbpatzer
The most annoying thing is that I'm going to be away all of next week. Why couldn't she have invited them then? Why? Why??? :f_cry:

Because they wouldn't get to see you if you are away, isn't it obvious? :coolface:


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Good luck with the chess game jb - and the kids. I've never been very good at chess and even as a teacher I was crap at kids. Have fun.


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vonki
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Originally posted by jbpatzer
No idea what you mean, but I hope you didn't think I was being rude. I always appreciate any comments.

haha, this below is what I was refering to

Originally posted by jbpatzer
as I'm not looking really for looking for advice or sympathy

As im not looking really for looking for... just thought it sounded very funny, and you don't slip up very often :rolleyes:


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Originally posted by vonki

Originally posted by jbpatzer
No idea what you mean, but I hope you didn't think I was being rude. I always appreciate any comments.

haha, this below is what I was refering to

Originally posted by jbpatzer
as I'm not looking really for looking for advice or sympathy

As im not looking really for looking for... just thought it sounded very funny, and you don't slip up very often :rolleyes:

:facepalm: Grammar tilt. That's a new one. Someone call Jared Tendler.


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Originally posted by jbpatzer
:facepalm: Grammar tilt. That's a new one. Someone call Jared Tendler.

ROFL


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chenny8888
Joined: 03.10.2007
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Originally posted by jbpatzer
I just finished playing Chenny at backgammon. Two first to five matches - he won the first, I won the second. He thinks he knows what he's doing - I think he doesn't. I think I know what I'm doing - he thinks I don't. I expect we are both huge backgammon fishes, but it makes for an interesting conversation.

this is a total lie, i know i don't know what i'm doing.

i also know you don't know what you're doing ^^


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chenny8888
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Originally posted by EmanuelC16

Originally posted by chenny8888

Originally posted by EmanuelC16
There are 4 combos that beat you on the turn imo:
1x33
3x66.

You still beat weaker flushes and all his air, few trips in his range imo...

I would probably be tempted to raise the turn here but I'm not sure it's the best play. Reason I'd raise is that there are quite a few action killing cards. A spade, a 3, a 6 and possibly a J as well. Apart from that, if he's not bluffing river, we might as well get value on the turn after he already bluffed it.

That said, what do you think is his range on the river? To me it looks like air, trips or better. Don't know if he checks flushes. Checking any made hand there doesn't make sense on his part so leaving the making sense part behind: I think he's range is rather inelastic. You said it yourself c/r on flop is usually BS. If it's not BS he probably has some sort of hand. I'm thinking good spot to shove if we are ahead of his value range. If you think he has very weak showdown value I would bet less than 1/2 pot. Maybe 1/5 pot tbh..

Like you said though, when he raises river it's probably a fold...

you want to raise this turn bet roughly 0%, maybe up to 0% and down to -5%, if you're starting to think about making yourself more balanced.

Yeah, since balance is always my main concern when exploiting other's tendencies. Ty for enlightening me!

this is true. all the same, calling turn calling river when we have a redraw is simply the better line when so much of villain's range is air and we aren't particularly afraid of any rivers falling down. for example if a 4th spade peels off, our opponent can think that this is a scarecard and decide to bomb it, we want to give him that opportunity to hang himself.

my comment applies more to having a hand like 8d8s here, where presumably we're also at least calling turn. but with ATss, even if it wasn't the most balanced line in this spot calling is superior.


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EmanuelC16
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Originally posted by chenny8888
this is true. all the same, calling turn calling river when we have a redraw is simply the better line when so much of villain's range is air and we aren't particularly afraid of any rivers falling down. for example if a 4th spade peels off, our opponent can think that this is a scarecard and decide to bomb it, we want to give him that opportunity to hang himself.

my comment applies more to having a hand like 8d8s here, where presumably we're also at least calling turn. but with ATss, even if it wasn't the most balanced line in this spot calling is superior.

I mentioned in my initial comment that people rarely go for 3 streets of bluffs so if he bluffs turn but never bluffs river we should still raise for value if we beat his value range.

What you say applies where people attack perceived weakness a lot more and you don't want to show up with a weak range where people will always fire away. I get what you mean, I just think it doesn't apply in this spot since it's an unknown on NL25.


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Fun session tonight. I finished a little bit up. I think mrsjb is overcompensating for the impending visit of her mother. She went to Tescos, did all the shopping, brought back wine and then administered it to me at regular intervals. For some reason I forgot that I'm not meant to to drink whilst playing poker. I think it's because I've been so amused by TT's live bad beat posts in his blog (he thinks he's being ironic, but actually he's a big girlie whinger, just like me - I mean we have to have something in common right?). Anyway, I'm feeling a bit pissed, and mrsjb is buzzing around complaining because she can't find the cat, so here's a hand where you can all laugh at me. Good night all. (Cba to post stats, but I think....fuck I've edited this three times and I still can't work out who's who. Bollocks to it. Everyone's a fish, including me.)

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) ZOOM - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $5.85
SB: $8.22
Hero (BB): $42.12
UTG: $8.24
MP: $7.95
CO: $14.96

SB posts SB $0.05, Hero posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T♣ T♦

UTG calls $0.10, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.40, fold, Hero raises to $1.35, UTG raises to $2.30, BTN raises to $5.85 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls $3.55

Flop: ($13.10, 2 players) 5♠ 9♠ 2♣

Turn: ($13.10, 2 players) 3♦

River: ($13.10, 2 players) T♠

UTG shows K♥ J♥ (High Card, King) (Pre 29%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
BTN shows K♣ A♥ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 71%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
BTN wins $12.51

:facepalm: but probably still not too bad a fold. At least I know where the button is now.


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BOBOsvk
Joined: 14.02.2010
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can't you find the cute black kittie ?


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doctorkgb
Joined: 01.04.2009
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Originally posted by BOBOsvk
can't you find the cute black kittie ?

It is in the muck


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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Originally posted by doctorkgb

Originally posted by BOBOsvk
can't you find the cute black kittie ?

It is in the muck

She was outside.....in the muck.


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Joined: 23.11.2009
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I just opened up Facebook, and two more of my old school photos have turned up. I wasn't going to bother you all with another one, but this one is a classic so I had to post it. You can just tell exactly what everybody is like. I reckon we're all about 15.

I also stumbled across the audio of my old headmaster ranting about respect for cleaners. He loved a rant, god bless him. I expect they weren't all Romanians then.

Spoiler

Yes, I am an evil racist! My secret is out! HAHAHAHAHA! _evil:

And btw:

1) It's snowing! Last week I was contemplating putting my shorts on. Wtf!
2) I finally listened to Pendulum today. I quite like them, but no guitars?? Wtf!
3) I think I'm reacting badly to pre chess nerves by overblogging (new word invented). Wtf!


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EmanuelC16
Joined: 02.01.2010
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You do look like a future prof, Prof! :f_biggrin:

Btw, you are not racist if you hate Romanians... we are the same eurofish race as you.. I think the word is xenophobic. :pokerface:


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jbpatzer
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Originally posted by EmanuelC16
You do look like a future prof, Prof! :f_biggrin:

Btw, you are not racist if you hate Romanians... we are the same eurofish race as you.. I think the word is xenophobic. :pokerface:

Xenophobic. Yes, that's the word. Bloody foreigners correcting my English! :f_mad:


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