Move it, move it up to the sky!

like the post sir. ofc not the graph, but HOW u wrote it. i know how tough it can by when moving up and running cold as ice. longterm counts tho. improve and play focused. thats all we can do

post some hands next days

btw: pls check skype. hope u have time tomorrow 4pm.

hehe don't worry to much... my first 30k hands on NL50 were disasterous too ♦

Tilt/bad run/spew and what not... eventually it'll turn around tho!

my first hands on every limit have also been rly atrocious.
except nl2k where i am on a lifetime heater over small sample ... thats why i dont play 2k anymore

anyway. dont forget its just money, or just random numbers in your account balance. dont take it too serious. working on your game/mindset will make u money longterm!

Wanna add u to buddy list .... However, it seems u improved ... actually, if u post a graph, u can post redline + blueline so that we can see ur ration caus eIMO nithing else matter on graph (Graphs dont matter but if u wanna post em, then make it at least a bti suefull for ya)

yea, there is some improvement but no sample anyway (still better than mine though)
EDIt: gotcha in my buddy lsit now and gonna join ur tables ... ♦

FFFUUUCCCKKK!!!

I got setuped for 1BI and lost another one in the hand below where i was 85% sure he doesn't have it, so total of 2BI lost and that was my stop loss for nl50. So no more nl50 for me now, my bankroll it's crippled once again. Damn i suck soooo bad. TT from now on please don't let me take shots without proper BR

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($52.50)
BB ($76.06)
UTG ($96.44)
UTG+1 ($16.50)
CO ($50)
BTN ($59.77)

Dealt to Hero 8♠ 5♠

UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, UTG calls $2

FLOP ($5.50) 7♦ 7♠ 4♥

Hero bets $4.22, UTG calls $4.22

TURN ($13.94) 7♦ 7♠ 4♥ 2♥

Hero bets $7.75, UTG calls $7.75

RIVER ($29.44) 7♦ 7♠ 4♥ 2♥ T♠

Hero bets $38.03 (AI), UTG calls $38.03

UTG shows Q♠ A♣
(Pre 61%, Flop 60.5%, Turn 77.3%)

Hero shows 8♠ 5♠
(Pre 39%, Flop 39.5%, Turn 22.7%)

UTG wins $102

OH GOD DAMMIT!!! I feel super shity right now i really felt that it's working when i recovered until BE, but when i reached 0 it's like they fucking activated doomswitch.

I've put so much dedication last days and this shit happens. I just wanna break something.

no more poker this weekend. monday coaching with TT..will see then. Until then i'll get drunk. And yeah. FUCK!!

...hmmm
That hand, are you sure its best play with your BR?
Its very high variace play imo.
If he calls flop, what he have usually.
Overpair, or some sc with 7, or 56s or 44 or overcards.
7 he dont fold, 44 is very likly, he dont fold, only hand what he fold is 56s for sure + overcards.
So you are trying to force here folding overpair, what is most likly imo after turn call, to try get fold by overpair is very high risk play, because ppl just dont fold overpairs.
And i have seen extremly often lately thatkind of play with AA/KK, utg limp in to get some action, because no-one dont give action utg open.

Ok this time he had overcards and really bad call from him, put i think this play isnt +ev.
PF raise is ok when you know that he limp in utg only for setmining, and fold really often to cbet. If not, i never iso utg with low 2gapper.
And turn second barrel is also bad i quess, you have gutshot only, board is paired + 6h may bring lot of problems for you, you just dont have enought pot eq + fold eq to do move like this.
In river shove, you think he fold about ~60% of times?
Just notice, that ppl DONT fold overpairs so often like we think.
For sure its not huge ev play, maybe BE, but it makes really big variance, with your br.......

Yeah generally, beople dont fold so often like we think that they should.
Sorry for long post and i will wait some better player advice, im just NL25 grinder.

edit:
We dont care that this time he had AQo and he made really bad call long run, we care his range, and given PF/Flop/Turn action he dont fold 60+% of his range.

Yea, looks like a spew to me too

- u could and probably should post some more hands

- at posted hand: turn is rly rly bad to bluff vs unexperienced plrs. vs reg u could bluff bet cuz he knows its the worst bluffing card. but vs not sooo thinking plr, give up turn alw. as played on that river u dont have any fe vs any pair. doesnt matter if 7x, 88 or 55. no pair is foldling here.
flop was dry w/o any draws except 56, u dont need to bluff vs 56 cuz your 8 high wins.
another part of his range is ocs on flop, probably some broadway combo. maybe with hearts that can easily call turn. so that combo of hands and also AKo, AQo u should alw get to fold on this river.

however, overall i think his range is a bit tooo pair heavy and not enough braodway combos in cuz on this turn, even a fish usually folds ATo, KJo etc etc.

his call vs our range is ofc atrociously bad. however, i dont think your bluff will show a profit longterm. this is not a good boardtexture in general and esp not vs a plr who l/c utg aka fish

- overall i think its good to take shot at micros and low limits. it didnt work out this time, but thats not the end of the world. back to nl25, get your system going, multitable a bit and get volume in. prepare a bit better for next shot on 50 and then start printing moniez

- btw: sample size is super small. i can also show u straight down graphs from my play <20k hands. thats why i make sure that i get in enough volume every month. longterm swings equal out and pure skill and winnings will be apparent. so no need to worry too much. but ofc, we alw want to worry a bit about our play and make sure we improve and progress day by day.

- one of the most important skills we need to develop as poker plrs/pros, is learning to lose. its a skill to know how to lose and how to cope with it. most ppl have the skill to win (some get super over confident, but most can deal with winning). however, what makes the difference in making a ton of money longterm is being able to lose. when u are rdy to lose, u will be able to win big (i think i underlinded that in my 1k post, maybe u wanna (re)read it) make sure u rly take out as much as possible from that experience. understand how your mind gets affected, think about what to do to be able to continue plaiyng your best even after moving down and even after losing a big part of your br. and ofc, learn from poorly played hands and play them better next time.

- enjoy your weekend as best as u can after that cold run, dont forget not to take it too serious. its just poker, just money and not more. health, friends, freedom, fun, party, sex drugs n rock n roll, peace and harmony >>> some digital numbers on your poker account.

- cu on monday sir. i wont schedule other coachings afterwards, so i will have some time.

to send u some positive energy: thats how we're gonna celebrate when next nl50 shot works out

TT dont you wanna write book
I dont need to buy "Poker Mindset", i just read your posts ♦

Originally posted by Adapter1337
TT dont you wanna write book
I dont need to buy "Poker Mindset", i just read your posts ♦

+1

Originally posted by Adapter1337

Originally posted by fusionpk

Originally posted by TwiceT
this time i have to defend emi. he played A LOT today and learned probably even more. we also had some discussions going in skype, thats why he didnt update so far. but at least i am updated

he had to get some sleep for uni, so updates to come soon.

btw: next week im gonna record a 2 tables 25, 2 tables 50 session. let's try to figure out differences on these limits. following vid will be a review of a session played by emi, probably 2 tables each as well.

<3 I look forward to it, hopefully it is silver and not gold so I can watch it

Play more ♦

playing loads atm actually but unfortunately not tracked to p/s

@Emi, graph looks nasty but like everyone has said, downswings suck, maybe you spewed, maybe new limit intimidated you, all I can say is atleast next time you are prepared and can crush! I mean, it's like everything in life, you master one thing and then take a shot @ higher, doesn't always work out, think about idk, some extremem sports, freestyle motocross for example? Boom yes I nailed the tailwhip 50ft in the air, now lets try backflip!!! Oh fuck I landed on my head... shit happens, but sure as hell that guy nailed it in the end!

I wish you all the luck man! Next time you will prolly crush 50. Maybe next time when you are taking shots you could sweat with someone @ 50, just so that they can help you identify the differences between 25 & 50 or smthin!

GL @ the tables man. I too am attempting/trying to grind through the micros and into the low limits, wana get sick BR so I can show off some of my dancemoves at some of these sickkk partieesss xDDD!

Originally posted by fusionpk
........
GL @ the tables man. I too am attempting/trying to grind through the micros and into the low limits, wana get sick BR so I can show off some of my dancemoves at some of these sickkk partieesss xDDD!

Nice goals man:D

Nut yeah emi, next time you can do it, it just same variance shit, im sure you can beat this limit
I know how bad it is when you run cold and so on, its just so sick some times. But next time is run in your side and you can do it

GL

Ok, weekend it's gone and i relaxed a bit.

I have some interesting hands for you to post, but to my surprise when i reviewed i had quite some hands which i played bad and not as i usualy play them (tried funky moves like double floating, felt like everybody was trying to throw me from pots and i was fighting for pots way more then i usualy do, etc which obv didn't work out). I think this is a pretty big mistake when shoting at a limit. I think it's important to play abc a bit in the beginning, try to "feel" the limit and then start adapting. When i look at some hands i just LOL. I'm ashamed to post them, but i have to.

I have first 2 hands against same opponent: 45/27/7.3 total aggro/8 flop aggro/40% went to showdown over 200 hands
He also has 100% cbet, 0 fold cbet to raise

1. I really don't know what to think about this hand. Given his stats i should be in pretty good shape, but he insta shoved on me. I really tanked and figured that if he had something >> JJ he wouldn't just shove like that aka i saw his shove as a spew.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($50)
BB ($57.37)
UTG ($151)
UTG+1 ($81.94)
Hero ($60.97)
BTN ($86.62)

Dealt to Hero J♠ J♣

UTG raises to $2, fold, Hero calls $2, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($4.75) 8♦ 6♦ 8♠

UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $8, UTG raises to $149 (AI), Hero calls $50.97 (AI)

TURN ($122) 8♦ 6♦ 8♠ A♣

RIVER ($122) 8♦ 6♦ 8♠ A♣ Q♥

Hero shows J♠ J♣
(Pre 54%, Flop 51.3%, Turn 4.5%)

UTG shows K♦ A♦
(Pre 46%, Flop 48.7%, Turn 95.5%)

UTG wins $119

2. This is the 2nd hand against him. I find this one pretty standard, but is it? I mean he has aggro stats, but will he 3 barrel Tx enough times to make this call down profitable? btw: river agrro: 4

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($122)
BB ($81.94)
Hero ($89.72)
CO ($96.37)
BTN ($50)

Dealt to Hero Q♠ Q♣

Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, SB calls $1.25, fold

FLOP ($3.50) T♦ 8♠ 8♥

SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $5, Hero calls $2.50

TURN ($13.50) T♦ 8♠ 8♥ 6♠

SB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

RIVER ($28.50) T♦ 8♠ 8♥ 6♠ 3♦

SB bets $17.50, Hero calls $17.50

Hero shows Q♠ Q♣
(Pre 68%, Flop 10.5%, Turn 4.5%)

SB shows 8♣ A♣
(Pre 32%, Flop 89.5%, Turn 95.5%)

SB wins $60.50

3.Villain is 17/11 over 450 hands but as you can see after the hand he plays UTG vs a 3bet we can't judge by stats his range i guess. I also had a note on him: check/call, donk T & R on TTA7J board with AJ (got called down by QT). To be short i think i played this hand bad, i don't know what i was thinking.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($82.08)
BB ($153)
UTG ($52.44)
UTG+1 ($52.07)
CO ($52.69)
BTN ($50)

Dealt to Hero A♦ K♥

UTG raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $5, fold, UTG calls $3.50

FLOP ($10.50) K♠ Q♣ Q♥

Hero bets $6.50, UTG calls $6.50

TURN ($23.50) K♠ Q♣ Q♥ A♥

Hero checks, UTG bets $14, Hero calls $14

RIVER ($51.50) K♠ Q♣ Q♥ A♥ 8♦

Hero checks, UTG bets $26.94 (AI), Hero calls $26.94

Hero shows A♦ K♥
(Pre 63%, Flop 73.5%, Turn 13.6%)

UTG shows T♦ J♥
(Pre 37%, Flop 26.5%, Turn 86.4%)

UTG wins $102

4. Guy was a fish that sat down with 40$ playing 40/24. He only played 25 hands. I think he can pot donk turn with basicaly any Jx so i don't find my stack off that bad. Is it?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
SB ($50)
BB ($41.68)
UTG ($96.24)
Hero ($56.89)
CO ($55.97)
BTN ($48.54)

Dealt to Hero J♦ A♣

fold, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $1

FLOP ($3.25) 5♥ J♥ 5♦

BB checks, Hero bets $2.20, BB calls $2.20

TURN ($7.65) 5♥ J♥ 5♦ 3♣

BB bets $7, Hero raises to $17, BB raises to $37.98 (AI), Hero calls $20.98

RIVER ($83.61) 5♥ J♥ 5♦ 3♣ 3♦

BB shows 5♣ 6♣
(Pre 41%, Flop 91.1%, Turn 95.5%)

Hero shows J♦ A♣
(Pre 59%, Flop 8.9%, Turn 4.5%)

BB wins $80.61

5. 32/1/river aggro: inf over 80 hands. I get 3 to 1 but is anything else < AQ shoving there?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($50)
BB ($50.75)
UTG ($32.38)
CO ($55.12)
BTN ($56.16)

Dealt to Hero A♦ Q♠

UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, UTG calls $2

FLOP ($5.50) 5♦ Q♣ 9♦

Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4

TURN ($13.50) 5♦ Q♣ 9♦ 5♠

Hero bets $9.50, UTG calls $9.50

RIVER ($32.50) 5♦ Q♣ 9♦ 5♠ 4♦

Hero checks, UTG bets $16.38 (AI), Hero calls $16.38

Hero shows A♦ Q♠
(Pre 59%, Flop 51.6%, Turn 70.5%)

UTG shows K♦ T♦
(Pre 41%, Flop 48.4%, Turn 29.5%)

UTG wins $62.26

So bankroll it's now 300$. Very shalow, i know. I decided i will use the 25-5 rule. So now i will grind nl10 until 625 and then use 5 nl25 BI (125$) to "take shots" at nl25. If that works i grind nl25 until 1250$ and use 250$ for shot at nl50 (not like i did now: with 16BI i took shot and lost 9 stacks) and etc. I will really stick to this rule from now on, i can't risk again. I have coaching @ 2PM and will talk some more stuff with TT then.

Oh and i started driving school. Today it's my first lesson, but not of driving. First 2 weeks legislation and theory. This will be the car i will learn on Peugeot 107 on petrol. Pretty small, but it should do the trick

And one last advice: maybe you should stay inside when i start driving lessons ♦

Hey emi,

sad to hear about ur br TBH I think you leveled yourself too much. From my experience, nl50 isn't all that
different compared to the lower limits we played. It just seems that there are some more weak regs (for example I
checked a guy that gave me hell yesterday and he's played 500k hands on nl50 and nl100 with average winrate of
1bb/100 AFTER rakeback) that are to be exploited

The only thing I prefer to do on this limit is 1) to table select better, meaning a fish in direct position or 2 fishiz on the table. The other thing is that I always try to get an immage going against the regs. Ppl here 3bet a whole lot, but you shouldn't play back at them right away. I mean what are you risking? 3bb? just folding oop is way better than doing some crazy plays. One 4bet for bluff or value and you get even for 3 of his 3bets

I'm at work now so can't really comment on all the hands, but if you wanna talk you can find me in skype ^^

BTW I just started the same course ♦ 2 weeks theory -> practice driving -> vic on wheels

gl regrinding, I'm sure there is no way you can fail with TT on ur side

Originally posted by BattleHunter
TBH I think you leveled yourself too much

I think you are right!

Thanks for advices and wishes and I wish you the same thing. Gl with driving school too

I think you've been trying to push things too fast. BR of 300$ and you've recently been playing nl50... that combination just sounds (and is) superfishy imo. Your game takes time to develop just as anyone's. Take your time and focus. If you've played nl50, it does feel like pennies to go back to play nl10 yet you need to focus even more than you did on nl50. It sucks, I've moved down limits enough much to know. Just take your time and work your way up.

Br is now 300$, i had 800$ when i played nl50.

@ QQ hand: vs c/mr flop and bet turn is usually pretty nutted. if he c/r bigger flop or donk i alw stack off. here, i might fold turn sometimes when i feel there are some nutty vibrations in the air. but def close spot vs aggro fish

@ AK hand: dont like 3b oop vs utg too much. i flat here almost always without crazy dynamic. esp vs 17/11. cbet is ok, def +ev, but doesnt accomplish too much imo. he is just folding TT, AJs, 87s etc. + KQ, QQ, AQ, KK has u fucked. i usually c/c flop and then put my soulreading glasses on on the turn and analyze his timing and betsizing. i think if he bets turnn again, he has u beat too often, so c/f again would be in order.

as played, turn is easy c/f imo. if u think a bit about his range and your perceived range, its an easy c/f.

i think i would play the other hands the same way.

dont forget, its also often the very small pots that make a crucial inpact on our wr.