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this is an interesting situation that happens quite often and it is never an easy decision, I usually play it this way but would like to hear some opinions and analysis about this.
vilain is a TAG reg, on the flop he could have called with anything ranging from pure air (a float) to the mortal nuts, on the turn I lead because I don't want to chekc and give him the lead, if I check he will probably bet like 3/4 of the pot with any 2 cards and then I would have no clue where am at. so I go ahead and he makes a BIG raise, I thought that unless he had the mortal nuts (a straight) he would never bet that big, he either has total air or semi bluffing a flush draw, he could have a combo draw too, but that's unlikely. so I 3bet him all in and he folds.
my question is, on the turn I was sure he was either drawing or on a complete bluff, is it the right move to re-raise all in to blow him off his draw ? or should I just call and let him bluff the river as well ?
alot of scare cards could come on the river and make me outguess myself and maybe fold the best hand.

vilain is vpip17/pfr14/af2.8

Cassava Poker $0.03/$0.06 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (UTG): $6.06
CO: $7.11
BTN: $6.00
SB: $12.80
BB: $6.00

Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero is UTG with 8♦ 7♦
Hero raises to $0.18, CO calls $0.18, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.45) 5♠ 8♠ 6♥ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.33, CO calls $0.33

Turn: ($1.11) Q♣ (2 players)
Hero bets $0.55, CO raises to $1.75, Hero raises to $5.55, CO folds

Final Pot: $4.61
Hero wins $0.54
(Rake: $4.07)

I think your play was just a bit too risky. though, he is not too tight in my opinion, so some semi-bluffs are okay. but I doubt I would risk my whole stack on a semi-bluff against a TAG. also, if he did have something on the river (like QsXs), he would have called your AI, so if you put him on a missed draw, a call would have done the trick, too, without potentially giving your whole stack to him.

Originally posted by pepsico
I think your play was just a bit too risky. though, he is not too tight in my opinion, so some semi-bluffs are okay. but I doubt I would risk my whole stack on a semi-bluff against a TAG. also, if he did have something on the river (like QsXs), he would have called your AI, so if you put him on a missed draw, a call would have done the trick, too, without potentially giving your whole stack to him.

I know it is too risky, but I thought it was the right play there. and I think he will never have a suited Q on that spot because of his betsizing, that raise is just too big, if he was a fish then maybe I would've considered Q T or something like that, but since he is a more or less good player, why would he raise with draw+top pair ? he is only getting called by a much better hand with that bet sizing and he knows it. that's why I put him on either draw or complete bluff.
You said a call would've been better, but what should I do on the river since I wont like 70% of the cards that might fall, and he will surely be moving all in, my straight draw gives me some equity but still, it will be a much harder decision to make I think.
maybe I'm wrong and I played it too agressive, but it worked anyway ♦

Bankroll updates

I can play NL6 comfortably now and bye bye nl4, really dry action on nl4 anyway so I'm happy about that.
12248 hands overall with 34bb/100 rate on all stakes combined, hope I keep running this way

bankroll : 154.14$

1k hands more; had an upwsing and then lost few big pots and back to even

br: 153,80$

Wish you running that good all the way. Maybe soon will meet at the 888 tables : )

Originally posted by philenvyy
Wish you running that good all the way. Maybe soon will meet at the 888 tables : )

thanks mate

interesting hand that I played today, I tanked and activated time bank and folded with 4 seconds remaining, turned out to be the wrong decision, but vs 2 vilains I can't call, with no reads/stats on both of them, I though at least one of them had a 7, probably the guy on the button, and I didn't think he had less then A7, maybe 79 or 78 but very unlikely, the other guy could have anything, but I thought he either had 66 or a flush draw.
I don't like going broke on limped pots so I folded, thought about making a crying call but as you see, I threw it away...

anyone have an opinio about this ? do you think I could ever call on that spot ?

Cassava Poker $0.03/$0.06 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: $6.72
BTN: $11.17
SB: $5.22
Hero (BB): $5.99
UTG: $5.10

Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero is BB with 7♥ T♥
UTG calls $0.06, 1 fold, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.03, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.24) 6♣ 7♣ 7♦ (4 players)
SB bets $0.24, Hero calls $0.24, UTG folds, BTN raises to $0.60, SB calls $0.36, Hero calls $0.36

Turn: ($2.04) 2♠ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $1.53, SB calls $1.53, Hero calls $1.53

River: ($6.63) J♥ (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $6.63, SB calls $3.03 all in, Hero folds

Final Pot: $12.69
BTN shows 8c 7s
SB shows Qd Qh
BTN wins $8.35
(Rake: $4.34)

decided to try nl10 a bit, playing 2 nl6 tables and 1 nl10 table at the moment. running good and I feel that I am playing good too, won a huge pot from a nit reg. here's how the hand went:

Cassava Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $20.30
CO: $20.19
BTN: $4.00
SB: $3.84
BB: $18.99
UTG: $19.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A♥ A♦
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.65) 3♠ 2♥ A♣ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.65) Q♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $0.92, Hero calls $0.92

River: ($3.49) K♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $2.61, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG raises to $17.33, Hero calls $10.83

Final Pot: $38.15
Hero shows A♥ A♦
UTG shows Q♦ Q♣
Hero wins $36.25
(Rake: $1.90)

when the river hit a K, I knew I had him, I put him on either QQ or KK, he might have TT or JJ sometimes.

so bankroll: 207,23$ at 14,3K hands ♦

anyone have an opinio about this ? do you think I could ever call on that spot?

Well, at first I didn't see the end hands, and I predicted someone had QQ-AA, but my fist choice would have been UTG, trying to get raised, and then 3-bet. Seeing SB had QQ surprised me a bit, but not all that much, knowing these guys are so fishy. I guess I'd put the BTN on an over-pair or a flush-draw/straight draw too. Wouldn't have given him a 7, and I would definitely go all in with that hand (because so many times you will get called by weaker hands like SBs QQ). Also, if he hit a set of sixes on the flop, he would have slowplayed, since the board is paired and no need to protect against flush draw.

Originally posted by booomm
decided to try nl10 a bit, playing 2 nl6 tables and 1 nl10 table at the moment. running good and I feel that I am playing good too, won a huge pot from a nit reg.

You lucky fish

Originally posted by pepsico

anyone have an opinio about this ? do you think I could ever call on that spot?

Well, at first I didn't see the end hands, and I predicted someone had QQ-AA, but my fist choice would have been UTG, trying to get raised, and then 3-bet. Seeing SB had QQ surprised me a bit, but not all that much, knowing these guys are so fishy. I guess I'd put the BTN on an over-pair or a flush-draw/straight draw too. Wouldn't have given him a 7, and I would definitely go all in with that hand (because so many times you will get called by weaker hands like SBs QQ). Also, if he hit a set of sixes on the flop, he would have slowplayed, since the board is paired and no need to protect against flush draw.

yes but what can I beat on the river? the BTN betting line is so strong that I can't find any thing I beat, he is betting very agressively into 2 players. and I don't think he ever limps with a big pair on the BTN (the sb did limp but that's another story) and I don't think he will 3 barrel with a SD or combo draw vs 2 guys, that would be just insane on a 3 way pot...
anyway I turned out to be wrong but if the situation comes again I don't think I am calling ..

Originally posted by pepsico

Originally posted by booomm
decided to try nl10 a bit, playing 2 nl6 tables and 1 nl10 table at the moment. running good and I feel that I am playing good too, won a huge pot from a nit reg.

You lucky fish

I just love to trap and punish nits ♠_love:

bankroll : 210,69

Graph update
14,499 hands. have to work on my school project for now, maybe I'll find some time to grind later tonight.

nice graph, looks solid, keep going.

Originally posted by booomm
decided to try nl10 a bit, playing 2 nl6 tables and 1 nl10 table at the moment. running good and I feel that I am playing good too, won a huge pot from a nit reg. here's how the hand went:

Cassava Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (MP): $20.30
CO: $20.19
BTN: $4.00
SB: $3.84
BB: $18.99
UTG: $19.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A♥ A♦
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.65) 3♠ 2♥ A♣ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.65) Q♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $0.92, Hero calls $0.92

River: ($3.49) K♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $2.61, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG raises to $17.33, Hero calls $10.83

Final Pot: $38.15
Hero shows A♥ A♦
UTG shows Q♦ Q♣
Hero wins $36.25
(Rake: $1.90)

when the river hit a K, I knew I had him, I put him on either QQ or KK, he might have TT or JJ sometimes.

so bankroll: 207,23$ at 14,3K hands ♦

I see that nobody told you but pal you misplayed that hand on every possible street. You're lucky that your opponent played very bad.
Just post the hand to hand evaluation forum . They will be glad to help.

I cant post it on the evaluation forum right now but will surely do later. can you explain why did I misplay the hand? why bet flop when there is only a slim chance he has Ak? maybe shouldve raised turn because of FD but still, he clearly had QQ or Kk!
any advice or opinions would be welcome

dont be so passive with the nuts imo.your hand is more deceptive if you cbet boards like that sometimes and also do it with the practical nuts.

Originally posted by conall88
dont be so passive with the nuts imo.your hand is more deceptive if you cbet boards like that sometimes and also do it with the practical nuts.

this guy is a 8vpip 5pfr nit over 280hands (have some history on him from nl6), how can I cbet with the 2nd nuts there ?

graph after 1k hands, looking steady, NL10 soon

br: 241,59$

Originally posted by booomm
I cant post it on the evaluation forum right now but will surely do later. can you explain why did I misplay the hand? why bet flop when there is only a slim chance he has Ak? maybe shouldve raised turn because of FD but still, he clearly had QQ or Kk!
any advice or opinions would be welcome

I wouldn't say it's so clear he had QQ or KK, as far as I'm concerned I'd think we would rather stack those hands preflop, don't know the dynamics between you two, maybe you just hace some reads on him.

Btw, why do you 3bet so little?