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philenvyy
Joined: 14.01.2011
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XandreW36
Joined: 05.09.2010
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Originally posted by booomm
I cant post it on the evaluation forum right now but will surely do later. can you explain why did I misplay the hand? why bet flop when there is only a slim chance he has Ak? maybe shouldve raised turn because of FD but still, he clearly had QQ or Kk!
any advice or opinions would be welcome :)

Hero (MP): $20.30
CO: $20.19
BTN: $4.00
SB: $3.84
BB: $18.99
UTG: $19.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A♥ A♦
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.65) 3♠ 2♥ A♣ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.65) Q♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $0.92, Hero calls $0.92

River: ($3.49) K♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $2.61, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG raises to $17.33, Hero calls $10.83

Final Pot: $38.15
Hero shows A♥ A♦
UTG shows Q♦ Q♣
Hero wins $36.25
(Rake: $1.90)

when the river hit a K, I knew I had him, I put him on either QQ or KK, he might have TT or JJ sometimes.

Pre: You can almost exclude KK from his range, as every nit knows how strong that hand is. Your preflop 3b is way too small, as you give him the odds to set mine or actually to call with any hand for implied odds (he needs to call .35 in pot of 1.30 that's 3.7:1 or 21% pot equity).
If his range (5%) is smth like this:


       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    17.25%  16.05%   1.20% { 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo }
MP3    82.75%  81.55%   1.20% { AA }

You can see he is not that far from odds you give him...

Flop: Ok, I can live with missed cbet there vs nit...

Turn: Probably the best card for his range, so its better to raise and try to stack off before any scare care fall on river ( like it did )

On River: After you raise him you clearly represent flush, TJ or bluff... so any of his made hand except flush becomes bluffcatcher. Only hand that he can ship for value now ( from nitty perspective) is AsJs... It's good that he overplayed whats technically just a bluffcacher. But you don't know that he do this unless you have a read on him...

Point is, just because you won the hand it doesn't have to mean you played correctly, and your opponents will not always overplay their hands. Esp when you move up limits...

Anyway nice hand after all

And nice graph ;), you're clearly doing something right. Keep it up and GL.

Edit: added actual hand for better visibility


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Thank you for your analysis, really helpful and clear.


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booomm
Joined: 22.03.2011
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Originally posted by XandreW36

Originally posted by booomm
I cant post it on the evaluation forum right now but will surely do later. can you explain why did I misplay the hand? why bet flop when there is only a slim chance he has Ak? maybe shouldve raised turn because of FD but still, he clearly had QQ or Kk!
any advice or opinions would be welcome :)

Hero (MP): $20.30
CO: $20.19
BTN: $4.00
SB: $3.84
BB: $18.99
UTG: $19.00

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A♥ A♦
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.65) 3♠ 2♥ A♣ (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.65) Q♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $0.92, Hero calls $0.92

River: ($3.49) K♠ (2 players)
UTG bets $2.61, Hero raises to $6.50, UTG raises to $17.33, Hero calls $10.83

Final Pot: $38.15
Hero shows A♥ A♦
UTG shows Q♦ Q♣
Hero wins $36.25
(Rake: $1.90)

when the river hit a K, I knew I had him, I put him on either QQ or KK, he might have TT or JJ sometimes.

Pre: You can almost exclude KK from his range, as every nit knows how strong that hand is. Your preflop 3b is way too small, as you give him the odds to set mine or actually to call with any hand for implied odds (he needs to call .35 in pot of 1.30 that's 3.7:1 or 21% pot equity).
If his range (5%) is smth like this:


       Equity     Win     Tie
MP2    17.25%  16.05%   1.20% { 88+, AJs+, KQs, AKo }
MP3    82.75%  81.55%   1.20% { AA }

You can see he is not that far from odds you give him...

Flop: Ok, I can live with missed cbet there vs nit...

Turn: Probably the best card for his range, so its better to raise and try to stack off before any scare care fall on river ( like it did )

On River: After you raise him you clearly represent flush, TJ or bluff... so any of his made hand except flush becomes bluffcatcher. Only hand that he can ship for value now ( from nitty perspective) is AsJs... It's good that he overplayed whats technically just a bluffcacher. But you don't know that he do this unless you have a read on him...

Point is, just because you won the hand it doesn't have to mean you played correctly, and your opponents will not always overplay their hands. Esp when you move up limits...

Anyway nice hand after all

And nice graph ;), you're clearly doing something right. Keep it up and GL.

Edit: added actual hand for better visibility

thx for the analysis, really insightfull :)

I think that you are right about most of what you said but I think there are a couple of thing that I have to clear out.
preflop, I made a big mistake by only minraising, I never do that actually; always re-raise 3x, sometimes 4x maybe more, but I should've reraised something like 1.20$ preflop. the only reason I minsraised is because I was playing 2 nl6 tables and 1 nl10 table, and on nl6 tables my 3bet is mostly 75$ (since an open raise is mostly 18-24$) I didn't pay attention untill he called me, another thing: this guys open raised 4x preflop and that's my read on him: I saw him do this 2 times only, once with KK and once with JJ (not against me though). he never does this with AK or weaker I think, he might do it, but that's unlikely because he usually open raise 3x. so that's why I was sure he had either QQ or KK on the turn.
so that's basically why I played the hand the way I did, he definatly played very bad on the river, I think I was folding my 3 queens pretty often if I was him, my guess is that he put me on AK or a small set (33 or 22).


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philenvyy
Joined: 14.01.2011
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Originally posted by booomm

I think that you are right about most of what you said but I think there are a couple of thing that I have to clear out.
preflop, I made a big mistake by only minraising, I never do that actually; always re-raise 3x, sometimes 4x maybe more, but I should've reraised something like 1.20$ preflop. the only reason I minsraised is because I was playing 2 nl6 tables and 1 nl10 table, and on nl6 tables my 3bet is mostly 75$ (since an open raise is mostly 18-24$) I didn't pay attention untill he called me, another thing: this guys open raised 4x preflop and that's my read on him: I saw him do this 2 times only, once with KK and once with JJ (not against me though). he never does this with AK or weaker I think, he might do it, but that's unlikely because he usually open raise 3x. so that's why I was sure he had either QQ or KK on the turn.
so that's basically why I played the hand the way I did, he definatly played very bad on the river, I think I was folding my 3 queens pretty often if I was him, my guess is that he put me on AK or a small set (33 or 22).

Soul read imo
Except that I wouldn't ever think that he put you on a set of 3's, either deuces, I think we was praying you were holding AK-AQ. Of course very very bad river play by him.


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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well I could've had 33 or 22 on that spot, as I 3bet tight players quite often with a wide range (and any pp is on my 3bet range vs this guy), I don't know for sure but this guys is a multitabler, maybe he wasen't paying attention to how I am playing because he was on alot of tables.
but I was so sure he had KK or QQ and maybe JJ, and on the flop I was praying for a broadway card to fall so that I can stack him


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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quick session today, 600 hands played and lost about 20$. I feel I am playing bad so I just quit, I'll play some later.
didn't play in the last couple of days because I had alot of work for school and everything, I didn't even have time to sleep from sunday untill yesterday night..
I slept like 15 hours or something and I still feel exhausted and sleepy..

br: 220$


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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down 4 buyins in the last 2 days in about 1.5k hands because of playing tired and sleepless. time to play my A game again, playing 2 NL6 tables and 1 NL10 and trying to play tighter, been card dead for the last few sessions.. so only adjustement I can make is to play tighter and avoid marginal spots.


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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3rd set over set today, this is the ugliest one, vilain looks like a nit playing 9vpip 3pfr over a small sample (50 hands). no way I can fold this, but this is getting really ridicleous :f_confused: :f_confused:

Cassava Poker $0.03/$0.06 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

MP: $2.40
CO: $6.95
BTN: $5.67
SB: $5.73
BB: $6.00
Hero (UTG): $9.83

Pre Flop: ($0.09) Hero is UTG with 6♦ 6♠
Hero calls $0.06, MP raises to $0.24, 2 folds, SB calls $0.21, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.18

Flop: ($0.78) 2♣ 4♣ 6♥ (3 players)
SB bets $0.58, Hero raises to $1.50, MP folds, SB calls $0.92

Turn: ($3.78) J♦ (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB raises to $3.99, Hero calls $1.49

River: ($11.76) 8♦ (2 players)

Final Pot: $11.76
SB shows J♣ J♥
Hero shows 6♦ 6♠
SB wins $11.07
(Rake: $0.69)


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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Graph update

total hands played: 18 460
win rate: 30,24bb/100 (on all stakes combined)

red line going up since I started playing NL10, I think that's because I'm winning more pots without showdown against regs since there are more good players on nl10, I don't avoid them when the fish is broke or sitting out, I just stay and try to outplay them instead of looking for another table with more fish.
that's why my graph is swingy toward the last 3K hands I think.


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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this is probably my last graph update since I only have 1 day left at my HEM2 trial :(
hands played: 19 748
br: 271,87$


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justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008
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Start up HEM1 free trial? hehe


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Tomaloc
Joined: 17.01.2011
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Originally posted by justkyle88
Start up HEM1 free trial? hehe

solid advice!
then when it's over you get the pokertracker trial...

that's how i did it :f_biggrin:
if you're going that path i'd recommend you to get pokertracker 4 first though, it's FREE while on beta! :f_p:

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Joined: 22.03.2011
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thx guys, I just installed PT4 beta and it is running fine
but I like HEM2 more though, hope i'll be able to withdraw and buy it in one or two months maybe..

will post graph later, time to grind now


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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first graph update with PokerTracker :f_biggrin:

bankroll: 302,98$

edit: I have no clue how to include showdown/non showdown winnings and allin ev with PT4 so I just uploaded my winnings graph, but I will try to figure it out later..


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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I think this is the first time I post a BB/hands graph, it looks less swingy since I played 4 limits (nl2,nl4,nl6 and nl10). running few BI above EV, but I don't think I'm getting lucky or anything, I had the ugliest suck outs and bad beats on the last 5K hands, but since most of those hands went to showdown it didn't count in the all in ev line. but anyway.. always good to run above EV :f_love:

any comments or critics on the graph would be most welcome :)


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aaalbinoo
Joined: 24.01.2009
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you're pretty sick, keep it up sir !


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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Originally posted by aaalbinoo
you're pretty sick, keep it up sir !

will try to keep the green line up :) thank you mate


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philenvyy
Joined: 14.01.2011
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Keep it up, and I think in a few days see you on the 888 tables, since my moving there is almost certain right now : )


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Joined: 22.03.2011
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I have been very busy this week, didn't have time to update my blog. I have to present my project tommorow for this year's final exam, so it is quite a big deal for me, and I've been working like a donkey for the whole week, only slept for like 12hours since sunday :f_mad: :f_mad:
yet I managed to find some time to grind a bit (around 3k hands in total since my last update) ran really bad and played bad too, but managed to make a small profit anyway

bankroll: 320,08$
graph since last update

all time graph


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