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Jan217
Joined: 02.01.2009
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Originally posted by HollyMichelle
So with Step 3 complete it's time for a little summary!

Starting Games: 6
Total Games played: 10
Step 3 Retries: 4
Step 3 Fails: 5
Step 4 tickets: 2
Winnings: -$144

Gonna have to think about whether attempting two Step 4s is > than 2 Sunday Million attempts.

Step 4 payout structure is a massive concern for me as only third place is guaranteed a retry whilst 4 and 5 move down a Step and 6th moves back down to Step 2!

Very risky!

#HelpMe!

Play the sunday million, much more +happiness EV IMO, and If you ship it you can go play the main event anyway.

Plus the competition is way softer than the regs at step 4+ (I assume)


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alxpoker91
Joined: 03.12.2011
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Play the sunday million, much more +happiness EV IMO, and If you ship it you can go play the main event anyway.

Plus the competition is way softer than the regs at step 4+ (I assume)

i agree with this but sunday million has bigger variance too.

i think both are good.do what you feel but keep us updated.


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ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008
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Originally posted by alxpoker91

Play the sunday million, much more +happiness EV IMO, and If you ship it you can go play the main event anyway.

Plus the competition is way softer than the regs at step 4+ (I assume)

i agree with this but sunday million has bigger variance too.

i think both are good.do what you feel but keep us updated.

Yea except sunday million has much lower variance

Ur EV in the SM is prolly 250$ and in a step 4 im guessing it's lower than 215$, certainly ur ROI will be negative in step 5 and 6. Snap choose SM imo


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UPAY4DINNER Topic starter
UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Cheers all.

I think the SM is the better choice but I won't rule anything out yet for another few days :)


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Hi .. missed alot of action :) So you got 2 x step 4 tickets from 250 bucks. Nice ROI then :)

Well done and very intresting challange.. i might steal your idea in future altough i suck at sng-s


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011
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So you have 2 step 4 tickets, 2 shots at the SM is definiting more +EV than 2 shots at step 4, yu gotta ask yourself, if you run good you may get one step 5 ticket, theres a very small chance yu may get 2 and a good chance you ll get none

So good senario, yu get a step 5 ticket, yu have one shot at step 5, if your lucky yu get a step 6 ticket worth $2.1k which is a lot of money

You ve ran amazing, yu managed to get this far, yu now have a step 6 ticket, yu have to WIN step 6 to move on the the WSOP, against people that are gunna be very very tough to play again in step 6, or at least come 2/3 for a retry

OR 2 chances at the SM which yu could make a couple of nice cashes or even ship big


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010
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play the step 4's, its what you started the challenge for, the pay out structure in the sunday million is dreadful anyway. Go for Vegasssssssss


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Originally posted by pleno1
play the step 4's, its what you started the challenge for, the pay out structure in the sunday million is dreadful anyway. Go for Vegasssssssss

Any better structured 215s on Stars?

Could split it and do one of each but for variance sake I feel it's wiser to do two of the same or does that really matter with just two games?


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pleno1
Joined: 19.11.2010
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id just give yourself two shots at the step 4's. I'd probably suggest asking a SNG player to look through a few of ur tourny reviews where they see all your hands as closing any leaks is important.


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gadget51
Joined: 23.06.2008
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Ah, down to the exciting bits! _cool:

Whatever you choose - and I would have no idea what to suggest - have fun.


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bradomurder
Joined: 17.10.2008
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you might as well forget about EV and just do what will be more fun, there's no point thinking of EV in a 2 game sample


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ihufa
Joined: 18.03.2008
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if u play the steps u'll have about 2% chance of getting a seat.

If u play the SM u'll cash like 25% of the time


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Jan217
Joined: 02.01.2009
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Originally posted by ihufa
if u play the steps u'll have about 2% chance of getting a seat.

If u play the SM u'll cash like 25% of the time

Yeah, and imagine the length of essay you could write if you describe every blind level and make a deep run in the SM! :]


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fruktpuff
Joined: 24.09.2010
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Originally posted by Jan217

Originally posted by ihufa
if u play the steps u'll have about 2% chance of getting a seat.

If u play the SM u'll cash like 25% of the time

Yeah, and imagine the length of essay you could write if you describe every blind level and make a deep run in the SM! :]

Essay? You mean the 4 volume book series?


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Originally posted by Jan217

Originally posted by ihufa
if u play the steps u'll have about 2% chance of getting a seat.

If u play the SM u'll cash like 25% of the time

Yeah, and imagine the length of essay you could write if you describe every blind level and make a deep run in the SM! :]

Don't tempt me!


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justkyle88
Joined: 07.05.2008
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IMO send Gary over with Edwin to WSOP to do reporting


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Castle93
Joined: 06.06.2011
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Originally posted by HollyMichelle

Originally posted by Jan217

Originally posted by ihufa
if u play the steps u'll have about 2% chance of getting a seat.

If u play the SM u'll cash like 25% of the time

Yeah, and imagine the length of essay you could write if you describe every blind level and make a deep run in the SM! :]

Don't tempt me!

Think about the publishers :P


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Originally posted by RobertDaPro
Hi .. missed alot of action :) So you got 2 x step 4 tickets from 250 bucks. Nice ROI then :)

Well done and very intresting challange.. i might steal your idea in future altough i suck at sng-s

ABC SNG Strategy along with decent ICM strategy will get you passed Steps 1-3 with a little run good. I can't comment on 4-6 but I would imagine they are harder. They don't run very regularly so I haven't even watched again games. Will try to watch a few games over the week and see the standard before making a decision.


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Originally posted by Castle93

Originally posted by HollyMichelle

Originally posted by Jan217

Originally posted by ihufa
if u play the steps u'll have about 2% chance of getting a seat.

If u play the SM u'll cash like 25% of the time

Yeah, and imagine the length of essay you could write if you describe every blind level and make a deep run in the SM! :]

Don't tempt me!

Think about the publishers :P

Get to that BBQ and beer party!


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UPAY4DINNER
Joined: 28.09.2009
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Just remembered next Monday is a bank holiday so I will have no work!

Also cleared $10 VPP bonus yesterday so will have another 2 cracks at Step 1 for old times sake ;)

#TheStarsAreAligning


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