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NL HU : anonymes ou pas ?

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Salut à tous !

en me balladant hier sur partypoker.com après une session PLO, je cherchais un peu d'action, et passer du PLO SH au NL SH, j'avais peur d'en manquer justement :transpire:

donc suis aller voir les tables de NL HU :

et je vois des tables : anonymous, et d'autres non !

je repense alors à un sujet posté par Galfond, qui préconisait que les tables de HU devraient être anonymes pour éviter que les reg sit les fish pendant des heures.

j'ai été surpris de voir qu'il y avait en effet peu d'action en table "non anonymes".

Par contre j'ai remarqué qu'il y avait des dizaines de tables ouvertes en "anonymes" sans duel en cours.

je me suis alors dit que l'effet pervers étant sans doute qu'un reg allait ouvrir 50 tables pour être sur que le fish de passage tombe sur lui.

est ce un effet pervers ?
est ce que les tables HU anonymes sont une solution ?
est ce un faux problème ?

quelle est votre avis sur la question ?

en tant que "amateur" NL HU, j'avoue que l'idée des tables anonymes me plaît beaucoup.

Mais si les Reg continuent à se contenter d'ouvrir 50 tables et ne jamais siter des tables déjà ouverte de peur de tomber sur un autre Reg alors le problème n'est pas résolu.

A vos commentaires!

julien


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Kojika
Inscrit : 11.02.2009
Elite Grinder

Mouais, pourquoi pas mais alors il faudrait interdire d'ouvrir plus d'une table vide/joueur.

Je préfère de loin l'idée de "King of the hill" proposée par Galfond aussi.

2) King of the Hill – A specific number of (non-full) HU tables are allowed at any point. This means that those willing to play anyone will end up “holding” the tables, as the only way to take it from them is to play against one of them until they leave.

I probably will tiptoe a bit on this one, as I am clearly biased. A King of the Hill situation would be very profitable for me. I’ll do my best to be objective, and hope that this can spark some good discussion.

I believe that something HAS to be done to the current system. A lobby of 25 players sitting alone at HU tables is ridiculous, and bad for the game, in my opinion. As much as no player deserves priority over another, it’s clear that someone who gives action is better for the game and better for a poker site than someone who doesn’t. That said, someone who chooses to exclusively bumhunt is well within their rights, and should be allowed to do so.

The problem with Infinite tables is that it discourages action, both amongst regulars, and between regulars and recreational players. I truly believe (though I have no data) that many recreational players have been turned off enough to stop playing by the way that games form around them, and ONLY around them. All of the players sitting alone looks awful.

King of the Hill (from now on: KotH) encourages action between regulars and makes online poker less intimidating and embarrassing for recreational players. It gives priority to stronger players, and those who give action. (This could be considered a good or bad thing, but certainly is good from a sites perspective, as it encourages players to give action)

A major downside of KotH is that it could prevent some games from occurring. If average reg A and average reg B would be willing to play each other, they no longer have a chance to, since neither will claim a HU table, and neither wants to play Tough pro A, B, or C in order to get that table. This was a very good argument against KotH structure four years ago. It doesn’t totally hold water today. It’s very rare that these HU matches are taking place. That said, it still would be bad to prevent them from happening, should things ever change and people start playing poker again.

My proposal is: Maximum of 5 HU tables that aren’t running. Infinite running tables, of course. At a 6max or full table, you can right click on anyone, and choose ‘play HU’ in a drop down menu. They are NOT notified of this. If each of you click it for each other, a button pops up that says “Create HU Table with xxxxx?”. Assuming you both click yes, you get a HU table created for you (and you can always add more HU tables).

The reason I think people shouldn’t be notified is that everyone will challenge the weak players, and it will get embarrassing and annoying for them. They may feel pressured to play HU to ‘not back down’ even when they’re uncomfortable with it. Sure, you can both decide in chat that you want to, but I think that system won’t be any worse than the current system… people still try to steal weaker players from a game in chat.

What I like about this solution, is that the lobby won’t be full of HU tables, but anyone has the opportunity to play HU. You can have a HU table when you are ACTUALLY going to play someone HU.

It gives a small advantage to the players willing to play anyone, who will get to hold the static tables, however I don’t think that’s unfair. Hopefully it will encourage some action to fight over those spots. The down side of this, mainly, is that it’s a little bit complicated. I just thought of this, so I haven’t worked out the kinks, and I hope people will discuss it and perhaps come up with some cleaner solutions.

I’ve also heard it suggested that anyone at a HU table should be forced to play 10 hands if someone sits with them. While I understand the value in this, I like my proposed solution much more.


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Kana54
Inscrit : 10.08.2010
BlackMember

C'est plutot sympa, pour se faire passer pour un fish.
Un fish veut jouer de toute manière pour moi, anonyme ou pas, ca change rien.
Le truc cool serait d'utiliser un tracker pour retrouver les anonymes
Perso j'aime bien lire les pseudos des adversaires qui sont drole parfois.

Bref, c'est un peu comme quand tu ouvres un sng HU en meme temps qu'un autre joueur.


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ilares
Inscrit : 26.10.2009
Elite Grinder

si jamais il n'y a que des tables anonymes ou le king of hill, ca va VRAIMENT tout changer je pense


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