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aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

Fiz agora uma mini-sessao antes de ir para o work :)

Acho que até correu mt bem .....só é pena ter levado este cooler :(

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $13.02 (130.2 bb)
BB: $7.77 (77.7 bb)
Hero (UTG): $10.52 (105.2 bb)
MP: $12.07 (120.7 bb)
CO: $21.98 (219.8 bb)
BTN: $9.75 (97.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $0.30, 3 folds, SB raises to $0.90, BB folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.90) 3 J A (2 players)
SB bets $0.90, Hero raises to $2.20, SB raises to $12.12, Hero calls $7.42 and is all-in

Turn: ($21.14) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($21.14) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$21.14 pot ($0.95 rake)
Final Board: 3 J A 6 2
SB showed A A and won $20.19 ($9.67 net)
Hero showed J J and lost (-$10.52 net)

Era tao bom ..ficar a grindar durante o dia ....umas sessoezitas tranquilamente ..quando estamos bem fisicamente e psicologicamente e nao ao fim do dia quando já estamos cansados de 1 dia de trabalho ..... ....enfim estou a divagar ..vamos lá para o work :(


aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

+2 hands e + 2 AK .

:] :] :] :] :] :] :] :]

Hand 44 -

Vilao é mt mauzinho ..um donk stack quebrada.

No turn pensei em shovar ..mas ..para que ?? para cobrar de flushdraw ?? Acho que não valia a pena.

O fold perante um re-raise ...e sendo donk ..tb não gosto ...pelo que não À mt a fazer

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $33.89 (338.9 bb)
BB: $7.35 (73.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $14.08 (140.8 bb)
MP: $11.88 (118.8 bb)
CO: $9.09 (90.9 bb)
BTN: $8.85 (88.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) T 3 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.65) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $2.99, Hero calls $1.89

River: ($7.63) Q (2 players)
BB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

Results:

Spoiler

$10.43 pot ($0.47 rake)
Final Board: T 3 7 K Q
BB showed 3 K and won $9.96 ($4.77 net)
Hero mucked A K and lost (-$5.19 net)

Hand 45 -

Jogavam de forma diferente?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $33.89 (338.9 bb)
BB: $7.35 (73.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $14.08 (140.8 bb)
MP: $11.88 (118.8 bb)
CO: $9.09 (90.9 bb)
BTN: $8.85 (88.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) T 3 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BB calls $0.45

Turn: ($1.65) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.10, BB raises to $2.99, Hero calls $1.89

River: ($7.63) Q (2 players)
BB bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40

Results:

Spoiler

$10.43 pot ($0.47 rake)
Final Board: T 3 7 K Q
BB showed 3 K and won $9.96 ($4.77 net)
Hero mucked A K and lost (-$5.19 net)


jukitas
Membro desde: 02.03.2010
PokerStrategist

n jogo de setmining nesses spots.

GL


jukitas
Membro desde: 02.03.2010
PokerStrategist

a hand 45 é insta fold turn...


ricain
Membro desde: 14.09.2010
Oldschool Grinder

A 44 é igual a 45. Como jogado fold no turn.


Kony76
Membro desde: 29.10.2010
Oldschool Grinder
elfu
Membro desde: 03.05.2009
PokerStrategist

Hand 42 - fazia cbet flop depois jogava conforme o turn.
Hand 43 - faço quase sempre 3bet nesse spot a não ser q tenha note do vilão, se ele desse 4bet aí provavelmente largava
Hand 44 - Não sei se é a maneira mais correcta ou não, mas jogava igual!!


aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

Original de Kony76
Na mao do JJ em que range colocas o vilão?
Eu tendia para o fold no PF.

Jorge .....nao posso foldar JJ perante uma 3-bet das blinds ...nunca ! :)

mesmo se ele fosse um mega-nit ....no pior dos casos dava call por set -value.

:]

ricain

A 44 é igual a 45. Como jogado fold no turn.

essa de foldar para re-raises no turn...tb nao sei se será sempre +Ev o fold.

Por incrível que pareça em ambas essas hands (44 e 45) no turn vem o K para me dar um belo TP com TK ...pelo que foldar aí nao é fácil :)

Mas compreendo ...que estes re-raises no turn sao quase sempre com 2 pares ou melhor.


alonohara
Membro desde: 06.03.2011
Oldschool Grinder

Original de aafrancis

Original de Kony76
Na mao do JJ em que range colocas o vilão?
Eu tendia para o fold no PF.

Jorge .....nao posso foldar JJ perante uma 3-bet das blinds ...nunca ! :)

mesmo se ele fosse um mega-nit ....no pior dos casos dava call por set -value.

:]

É 6máx. :D


Kony76
Membro desde: 29.10.2010
Oldschool Grinder
aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

Original de Kony76
Mas com que range elê dá 3b da sb vs utg?

De facto só agora vi que a tua questao pode ser pertinente.

Nao me recordo de quem era o vilao mas ..mesmo que fosse bem para o lado do tight podemos e devemos dar call por set value pelo menos.

claro que se aparecesse tipo A ou K e tivéssemos mt acçao era largar tranquilamente no pós -flop.

Mas foldar PF ...é super-nit.

:fdrink


Kony76
Membro desde: 29.10.2010
Oldschool Grinder

Sim, eu referia-me ao flop.

É que se o range dele for QQ+, AK, achas que ele atolava assim AK?
É de facto uma mão difícil de largar e depende muito se o vilão atola TpTk.


aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

Hand 46 -

estive mesmo mesmo mesmo para foldar PF .......

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

tinha poupado 100bb's.

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $18.69 (186.9 bb)
BB: $10.10 (101 bb)
UTG: $18.19 (181.9 bb)
Hero (MP): $11.14 (111.4 bb)
CO: $13.28 (132.8 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K K
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO folds, BTN calls $0.30, SB raises to $1.10, BB folds, Hero raises to $3.60, BTN folds, SB raises to $9.60, Hero raises to $11.14 and is all-in, SB calls $1.54

Flop: ($22.68) 5 6 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: ($22.68) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($22.68) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$22.68 pot ($1.02 rake)
Final Board: 5 6 7 7 5
SB showed A A and won $21.66 ($10.52 net)
Hero showed K K and lost (-$11.14 net)

Hand 47 -

ai ai ai ai ai .......esta doeu-me ....

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.79 (107.9 bb)
BB: $8.75 (87.5 bb)
UTG: $24.46 (244.6 bb)
MP: $14.41 (144.1 bb)
Hero (CO): $11.39 (113.9 bb)
BTN: $71.90 (719 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T T
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN folds, SB raises to $1, BB folds, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10) 6 4 T (2 players)
SB bets $1.40, Hero raises to $3.95, SB raises to $9.79, Hero calls $5.84

Turn: ($21.68) A (2 players)
River: ($21.68) K (2 players)

Results:

Spoiler

$21.68 pot ($0.98 rake)
Final Board: 6 4 T A K
SB showed A A and won $20.70 ($9.91 net)
Hero showed T T and lost (-$10.79 net)

Hand 48 -

o meu TP e respectivo kicker sao mt mt fracos ...pelo que tentei acelerar no flop para acabar ali logo a hand ....

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $12.55 (125.5 bb)
BB: $17.16 (171.6 bb)
UTG: $35.94 (359.4 bb)
MP: $14.51 (145.1 bb)
CO: $13.56 (135.6 bb)
BTN: $10.57 (105.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 T
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $1.10, BB folds, BTN calls $0.80

Flop: ($2.30) 3 9 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $1.40, Hero raises to $3.30, BTN raises to $9.47 and is all-in, Hero folds

Results:

Spoiler

$8.90 pot ($0.40 rake)
Final Board: 3 9 8
Hero mucked 8 T and lost (-$4.40 net)
BTN mucked and won $8.50 ($4.10 net)


IuriTPena
Membro desde: 09.04.2012
PokerStrategist

#48 - middle pair* pq não jogas em call? BD str8, BD flush parece-me um call relativamente fácil. Pre-Flop não sei, entre 3bet e call, talvez esteja mais inclinado para o call e dou 3bet com mãos ligeiramente piores.


ricain
Membro desde: 14.09.2010
Oldschool Grinder

#46: não podes foldar preflop KK. Next hand, é duro....

#47: neste board seco não espera levar muito call ao dar raise. Eu acelerava antes turn.

#48: eu preferia aí o bet/fold flop


aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

+2 hands

Hand 49

Acham esta "invenção" no river mt má ???

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $10.22 (102.2 bb)
BB: $13.11 (131.1 bb)
UTG: $7.85 (78.5 bb)
MP: $21.16 (211.6 bb)
CO: $10.72 (107.2 bb)
BTN: $19.46 (194.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 K
3 folds, BTN raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, BTN calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.90) 9 Q 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.90, Hero raises to $2.45, BTN calls $1.55

Turn: ($6.80) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($6.80) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.15, BTN calls $4.15

Results:

Spoiler

$15.10 pot ($0.68 rake)
Final Board: 9 Q 5 J 5
Hero showed 9 K and lost (-$7.50 net)
BTN showed A 6 and won $14.42 ($6.92 net)

Hand 50 -

Vilao é donk.

Fiz mal em acelerar o Flop ?

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $10.05 (100.5 bb)
BB: $10.10 (101 bb)
UTG: $10.15 (101.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $10.27 (102.7 bb)
CO: $4.28 (42.8 bb)
BTN: $10 (100 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 8 3 J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.47, Hero raises to $1.30, CO raises to $3.98, Hero calls $2.68

Turn: ($8.71) 4 (2 players)
River: ($8.71) 3 (2 players)

Results:

Spoiler

$8.71 pot ($0.39 rake)
Final Board: 8 3 J 4 3
Hero showed A J and lost (-$4.28 net)
CO showed 8 8 and won $8.32 ($4.04 net)


jukitas
Membro desde: 02.03.2010
PokerStrategist

3b e c\r com isso para que?

h50

raise pre e c\r?!?

nao entendo essas jogads

alinas donk, deve ser passivo com esses moves encurtas o range dele e perdes mtas vezes.

o normal é bet,betbet


aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

Original de jukitas
3b e c\r com isso para que?

h50

raise pre e c\r?!?

nao entendo essas jogads

alinas donk, deve ser passivo com esses moves encurtas o range dele e perdes mtas vezes.

o normal é bet,betbet

Tens toda a razao Jukitas!

Ontem depois de ter levado umas porradas fiquei mega hyper agressivo ...

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:


jukitas
Membro desde: 02.03.2010
PokerStrategist

É moda. Mas não é preciso fazeres isso para bateres os micros. Joga sossegado, os vilões cometem esses erros que tu cometeste e ganhas - lhes o $ , tranquilo.

Complicas mesmo o jogo para ti próprio.


aafrancis Autor do tópico
aafrancis
Membro desde: 10.01.2011
PokerStrategist

DDDAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

Por vezes jogar de forma ....PERFEITA nao chega :)

Dei o call só por set value .....vejam o que este ANIMAL fez ....

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $12.67 (126.7 bb)
BB: $6.68 (66.8 bb)
UTG: $12.39 (123.9 bb)
MP: $23.66 (236.6 bb)
CO: $10.46 (104.6 bb)
BTN: $21.85 (218.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T T
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.70, BB folds, CO raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.50) 5 T K (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.85, CO calls $1.65

Turn: ($6.20) J (2 players)
Hero bets $4.10, CO raises to $7.41 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.31

River: ($21.02) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$21.02 pot ($0.95 rake)
Final Board: 5 T K J 3
Hero showed T T and lost (-$10.46 net)
CO showed 9 Q and won $20.07 ($9.61 net)

:diamond: :diamond: :diamond: :diamond: :diamond: :diamond:

ainda bem que este era short ...

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

Hero (SB): $10.30 (103 bb)
BB: $12.12 (121.2 bb)
UTG: $12.56 (125.6 bb)
MP: $14.09 (140.9 bb)
CO: $4.35 (43.5 bb)
BTN: $27.06 (270.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.90, BB folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($3.10) 7 4 K (2 players)
Hero bets $2.05, CO calls $2.05

Turn: ($7.20) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.06, CO calls $0.80 and is all-in

River: ($8.80) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results:

Spoiler

$8.80 pot ($0.40 rake)
Final Board: 7 4 K 7 T
Hero showed A K and lost (-$4.35 net)
CO showed 4 4 and won $8.40 ($4.05 net)